> > Aside from hotplug there is nothing wrong with USB in kernel 3.8.x. I have > even installed, and booted from a USB hard drive using 3.8.13-bone26.
Nope, not the case. My kernel was hanging, no logs, nothing on serial console under 3.8.13. No hotplugging, good hub etc., no "babble interrupt" - the console cursor just stopped flashing. I upgraded to 3.12, *no other changes*, and finally started getting uptime > 48hrs (but my cape no longer worked). Conclusion: 3.8.13 has multiple issues with USB, many of which I see raised repeatedly on this list. And I respectfully disagree that USB can be considered a "desktop feature" in 2013. I expected I'd annoy a few people with my post, and the replies are all variations on: * It's a hobbyist product, you expected it to work? * It's open source, fix it yourself * Go learn to use Linux Which are the same arguments I have seen trotted out since I first installed Linux back in 1995 (kernel 1.2.11, eek). The fact it's so much better now than it was then is down to the efforts of many who thought that position was unsatisfactory. But ultimately you're missing my points. I come not to bury the Beaglebone but to praise it - it's a great board, but there are aspects of it which could be better and which I criticise only in the hope that my feedback will prove constructive, namely: 1. A single board computer selling tens (hundreds?) of thousands of units and designed to run Linux from the outset, apparently has no-one from the company that designed it (and that presumably profits somewhat from its sales) working on Linux. Community support only goes so far. If Robert decides he has better things to do with his time, what then? This is a computer, not an Atmel AVR, and it's reasonable to treat the OS as part of the package. 2. If you're designing a board with the same price point and form factor as the Raspberry Pi you can't claim it should only be brought by "hobbyists", whatever that means. My hobby (and my career) is writing user-space software, but I need a stable OS to do that, just like kernel developers need stable hardware. You can't build on shaky foundations. 3. Angstrom was a poor choice. The BBB is capable of running Debian or Ubuntu, both of which have hundreds of thousands more developer hours behind them and considerably better documentation and infrastructure as a result. Just think how much quieter this list would be if all the "how do I use ssh/python/configure my network adapter" questions were on the ubuntu forums? For my part I'm happy to sit on this list and answer the odd question in my field of expertise, I'm happy to test kernels, and I'm happy to nominate Robert C Nelson as man of the year for his voluntary efforts and to fervently hope he's not hit by a bus. Stay safe, Robert :-) -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to beagleboard+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
