Not to mention. If you build a custom BBB, and make 100 pieces, the cost will be around $300 to $500 a board after you pay the NRE and high cost of buying only 00 boards. .The reson this board is low a sit is is that we add a three zeros to the 100 number. That is the way this business works.
Gerald On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 8:07 AM, David Lambert <d...@lambsys.com> wrote: > Well said Gerald! The BBB is so much more than just a reference design. > It has been instantiated at a very low cost. I get sick when I hear of so > much crap being thrown at the team, just because its huge success has > caused some supply issues. > Rant over. > > Dave. > > > On 05/29/2014 08:00 AM, Gerald Coley wrote: > > I gave you the design for free. All the schematics, CAD files, and BOM. > You are free to build it yourself at any place you want. There is no NRE > charge. No license. > > Sorry that I can't be your personal engineering and manufacturing > operation. > > Gerald > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Eric Fort <eric.f...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hey, wait! Gerald does not suck! Gerald, and the entire beagleboard >> team are awesome and totally rock! We as a community probably give >> Gerald the most workload and highest amount of stress though. Yes, we >> have been given a great foundation in beagle on which to build. If >> you need something substantially more custom you've got much of the >> work already completed, and any rework and redesign not only is your >> own but really ought be contributed back to the community as well (if >> you do a derivitive work of the board rather than a clean sheet) >> >> Eric >> >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:38 AM, David Farning <dfarn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > I agree completely. >> > >> > With the understanding that there are shops which can do small custom >> > orders at reasonable prices, the conversation shifts from >> > BeagleBoard.orc / Circuit Co / Gerald sucks for not meeting my >> > specific needs... to how can I build on the foundation that >> > BeagleBoard.org et. al have laid to needs. >> > >> > David >> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Eric Fort <eric.f...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> While CircuitCo incurs some risk in expanding production capacity on a >> >> board that "anyone can step in and manufacture a clone" of, and >> >> Embedest *is* making a clone of as a second source I will still hold >> >> out when purchasing beagleboard products for those sourced from >> >> CircuitCo as their quality has always been consistant and of the >> >> highest degree and their servive has been excellent. So long as >> >> others make the same observation that does help lessen some of the >> >> risk. >> >> >> >> As far as getting circa 100 boards made, I know there are shops that >> >> will do single quantities and with that the case a quantity of 100 is >> >> not unreasonable, just gotta shop around a bit. I may know a few >> >> places to get you going so if interested, pm me. then again.... at a >> >> qty of 100 >> http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/BB-BBLK-100/BB-BBLK-100-REVC-ND/4842545 >> >> may be an option. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:19 PM, David Farning <dfarn...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Some shops are really good at churning out small (100 to 10,000 units) >> >>> runs of a product. They have perfected the art of retooling the line. >> >>> >> >>> In the current situation, it appears that our beaglebone friends are >> >>> in the process of convincing the money people to make the investment >> >>> to increase manufacturing capacity. The new equipment required to >> >>> increase capacity costs serious money. >> >>> >> >>> When one considers that the BBB is open and anyone can step in and >> >>> manufacture a clone and bypass then R&D costs TI and Circuit Co have >> >>> already invested, the risks start getting pretty high. >> >>> >> >>> What might seemed antagonizing slow to us on the outside, requires >> >>> serious thought and planing on the inside. It can be challenging to >> >>> communicate this when companies work as part of communities. >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM, William Hermans <yyrk...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> Gerald, I am just curious. Hypothetically speaking, what would it >> take to >> >>>> retool to make a custom board ? I am not looking for an "IN" or >> anything I >> >>>> am just curious. I'm thinking it would be a huge hassle to say the >> least. >> >>>> >> >>>> I've never worked in a PCB fab before, but worked for a CNC shop >> many moons >> >>>> ago, and retooling for even the most basic part ( door lock keyways >> ), would >> >>>> take a full day or two just for the setup, and a week or slightly >> longer to >> >>>> shake out the bugs. Meanwhile, the company is "losing" money until >> things >> >>>> are running smoothly again. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Gerald Coley < >> ger...@beagleboard.org> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> 100 boards is not a lot of boards. Especially when you have >> distributors >> >>>>> screaming for 50,000 boards to fill their large POs.. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Gerald >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 3:38 PM, sixvolts <drewko...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> There are plenty of things that get built and sold in those kinds >> of >> >>>>>> numbers, like specialized instruments. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:33:49 PM UTC-5, Robert P. J. Day >> wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On Wed, 28 May 2014, sixvolts wrote: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> > I've been trying to talk to the people CircuitCo about building >> a >> >>>>>>> > run of the beaglebone black boards for a commercial project, >> but I >> >>>>>>> > can't seem to get anyone to respond to emails and the two >> people I >> >>>>>>> > have phone numbers for are always busy. My understanding was >> that >> >>>>>>> > proper etiquette was to not poach boards from the distributors >> if >> >>>>>>> > you build a device around the beaglebone and have them produced >> for >> >>>>>>> > you. I even spoke to someone at a CircuitCo booth at a >> conference >> >>>>>>> > last year (DesignWest - where the beaglebone black was >> "launched") >> >>>>>>> > and they indicated this was common already for the original >> >>>>>>> > beagleboards/bones. >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > I can't get anyone local interested in building them because of >> some >> >>>>>>> > of the minimum order quantities on some of the parts (like the >> >>>>>>> > emmc). >> >>>>>>> > >> >>>>>>> > Anyone at CircuitCo around? I have money and need around 100 >> boards >> >>>>>>> > made. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> not many manufacturers would consider 100 units much of a "run". >> >>>>>>> that's not the sort of number that's going to get you much >> attention. >> >>>>>>> just an observation. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> rday >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> -- >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> ======================================================================== >> >>>>>>> Robert P. J. 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