Hi William, I'd like to take your advice and use native compilation on BBB but try to use some IDE anyway. As I know, Visual Studio can be such IDE. VS can automatically copy and remote build your sources and launch your application with the debugger on target. Are you familiar with non-commercial tool which is able to do this ?
Thanks On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 10:03:07 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote: > > > William, > > > > Thanks for input about using BBB itself. > > But I am worried about scalability of this solution. Software tends to > grow very quickly. > > What software tends to grow quickly ? You really need to think about what > you're doing. But if you're writing all the code yourself, and maybe using > some form of a Linux libc, and / or standard Linux API calls. You program > is not going to be so large the Beaglebone can't compile it. > > Give me an example of what you plan on doing though . . . > > > Is BBB powerful enough to compile relatively significant source code > amount ? > > > It depends, see above. > > > And which IDE do you recommend to work natively on BBB? The same as you > mentioned above ? > > I recommend no IDE. I use gcc from the cmd line, and I use several > different text editors to write my code. My setup is a little different > than many. I have an NFS server that shares a directory to the Beaglebone. > On the beaglebone this is where I compile my code, if not in a ramdisk. The > NFS server also run Samba, and exports this same directory out so I can > connect to it from Windows. Then, I use Visual Studio Code, Sublime text 3, > or whatever text editor I like in Windows to write code ( live ) on / for > the Beaglebone. Then it's just a matter of . . . > > $ gcc somefile.c -o somefile -Wall /* and whatever other options I want > and need */ > $ chmod +x ./somefile /* File needs to be given executable > permissions */ > $ ./somefile /* Then the application does its thing > . . .*/ > > On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:46 AM, ivbsd1 <ivb...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > >> William, >> >> Thanks for input about using BBB itself. >> But I am worried about scalability of this solution. Software tends to >> grow very quickly. >> Is BBB powerful enough to compile relatively significant source code >> amount ? >> >> And which IDE do you recommend to work natively on BBB? The same as you >> mentioned above ? >> >> >> >> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 9:39:55 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote: >>> >>> Additionally, if you're worried about writing too much to flash media ( >>> emmc or sdcard ), just create a 128M ramdisk, and compile your projects in >>> that. You can also setup an NFS share, LInked with a Samba share so you can >>> edit these files easily from within Windows . . . there are a ton of >>> options out there . . . >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:36 AM, William Hermans <yyr...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ivbsd1, >>>> >>>> I would like to point out that I use Windows on a daily basis, and have >>>> since the 90's. However I will also mention that I consider Windows a >>>> really bad choice of a development platform for this hardware. >>>> >>>> For really simple applications, or probably even reasonably complex >>>> applications, cross compiling form Windows will work fine. >>>> >>>> However, you will very soon start noticing problems. How do you get >>>> Linux API headers into Windows? How do you compile anything complex on >>>> Windows, like Qt, Nodejs, wireshark, or better still a Linux kernel, or >>>> kernel module ? The list goes on, and on and . . . >>>> >>>> So, I think it would behoove you, or anyone to figure out how to get a >>>> Linux system for a development system. Here, I would like to point out >>>> that >>>> if you have a beaglebone, you already have one. So no need to cross >>>> compile, just compile natively on the Beaglebone. This will work fine for >>>> 99% of projects out there. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 11:05 AM, ivbsd1 <ivb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> William, Graham - thanks a lot for valuable inputs. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure that under Linux it will run better. But environment should >>>>> comply with some existed IT infrastructure . >>>>> >>>>> So, William, I'll try your suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Friday, July 1, 2016 at 8:55:02 PM UTC+3, William Hermans wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Additionally. If you *can* live with using Linux. The default >>>>>> toolchains supplied with Ubuntu 14.04 work very well too. D.R. Derek >>>>>> Molloy >>>>>> has youtube videos on setup under Ubuntu, for a suitable toolchain and >>>>>> using Eclipse - I think. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:52 AM, William Hermans <yyr...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Just remember, you only want a tool chain that is abihf ( ARMv7 ) >>>>>>> compatible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, William Hermans <yyr...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since no one addressed the question, but instead talked arounf it . >>>>>>>> . . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The only known( at least to me ) toolchain for the armhf software >>>>>>>> ABI, and WIndows binaries is offered by Linaro. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://releases.linaro.org/14.11/components/toolchain/binaries/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here is you read the release notes text it says which are Windows >>>>>>>> binaries. But since mingw is not required for Linux, you can pretty >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> rest assured that any toolchain with "mingw" in the file name is in >>>>>>>> reference to Windows binaries. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As for IDE's . . . The two most flexible for setting up with a >>>>>>>> Custom toolchain would be Code::Blocks, and Eclipse. Personally, I >>>>>>>> prefer >>>>>>>> Code::Blocks because it's run as a native executable versus Eclipes' >>>>>>>> JRE >>>>>>>> requirement . . . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:24 AM, Graham Haddock < >>>>>>>> gra...@flexradio.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My personal favorite C/C++ IDE is Eclipse, with the C/C++ >>>>>>>>> Development and Remote System Explorer (RSE) environment packages. I >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> the GCC cross compiler. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> A reference on how to set this up, although needing some updating, >>>>>>>>> due to newer current versions of Debian and Eclipse, is Derek >>>>>>>>> Molloy's >>>>>>>>> book, website, and youtube videos. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Since the target system is Linux/Debian, things will run a lot >>>>>>>>> smoother if you run Eclipse and the appropriate GCC cross compiler >>>>>>>>> under >>>>>>>>> Linux, rather than Windows. 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