Well, we found a solution to just use the prebuilt image I attached earlier but know it is only in read mode. I don't the username and the password so I can't put my librairies to usr/lib... What a shame that OS
Le vendredi 5 mars 2021 à 08:32:14 UTC+1, Lucas SOLDA a écrit : > Thank you all for your answers, I will try to answer you in one post. > > *"You never told us if your product was using custom hardware or > incorporating the beaglebone board."* > If I use something else than QNX, I won't be able to port all the work > made by my colleague. In fact, we are creating and developping our own > electronic cards and we use QNX to programm them. We wanted to use the > BeagleBone Black to realize some tests (test bench) on our products and by > using QNX, we just should have ported our already existing programs. I'm > not the person in charge of programming, builing, compiling QNX but I > develop the product in which our cards are installed. This is why I don't > understand everything about BSP, QNX, etc. > > *"As you ask, what is missing from the BSP that needs building?" : *We > want to add the IsaGraf drivers in order to make the BeagleBone Black a > target source in which we can send programms. I think, the BSp does need to > be modified in that case , doesn't it ? > > We cannot upgrade our QNX development system because it would be too > dangerous. We have only one licence and we don't want to destroy anything. > Le vendredi 5 mars 2021 à 04:07:15 UTC+1, robert.sty...@gmail.com a > écrit : > >> Upgrading QNX Development System. >> >> From memory, it is more involved than downloading a SP file and running >> it. >> You have to unzip the download. >> Find the old files. >> Copy the old files to a backup name or folder. >> Copy the new files from the zip archive, over the old files. >> >> On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 02:59:32 UTC robert.sty...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> As you ask, what is missing from the BSP that needs building? If >>> nothing, the next step is getting network setup to connect with SSH and >>> IDE, possibly run network file system client to access files on your >>> development PC. >>> >>> >>> Re: File System Image (I cannot remember all the details) >>> >>> You use an IDE BSP project to build a bootable image including your >>> application (started by boot script which also loads any needed drivers). >>> This bootable image can be copied to a flash drive or accessed from a >>> network file system (during development). >>> The bootable image may be compressed read-only and expanded into a RAM >>> backed 'disk' or expanded on the fly. >>> >>> During application development, the bootable image boots to "sh" command >>> line. You can run any missed commands in the boot script. >>> You use the IDE to connect the debugger over ethernet to QNX process and >>> temporary download your debug version application. The IDE debugger can >>> run, pause, single-step, etc. >>> >>> In the BSP project you edit a configuration which controls what is >>> included in the boot image. You add or remove files from the prebuilt >>> folder. You edit the start up script to load and configure drivers. >>> >>> In QNX drivers and file-systems are server processes/programs which >>> respond to certain messages. Most QNX programs and applications are servers >>> which wait on a message queue. >>> QNX provides a POSIX wrapper server which converts system calls into >>> send-wait-reply messages or convert signals into send-and-forget pulse >>> messages. QNX also has time limited blocking on both send and receive >>> messages. >>> >>> The QNX micro-kernel schedules process execution, allocates memory for >>> messages, and transfers messages between processes. >>> It is supported server programs to implement the OS functions. >>> >>> On Friday, 5 March 2021 at 00:22:31 UTC lazarman wrote: >>> >>>> The file system isn't the BSP. This part supplies all architecture >>>> specific(ASP) functions like Cache,MMU and the board specific drivers for >>>> on chip peripherals on all cores. >>>> >>>> If I understand Lucas correctly and you look at the zip file he >>>> provided the support is limited as to drivers and he needs to recompile >>>> that and add to it. >>>> That's the only reason he can't use the binary. >>>> >>>> From your response it appears you didn't need to modify this. >>>> >>>> I would guess the x15 BSP is more inclusive and mature but doubt it >>>> provided loading c6x DSP code or Cortex M4 code but it's not relevant to >>>> Lucas. >>>> >>>> Your experience with support below >>>> >>>> <<We did not have gold level support, questions often take days to be >>>> answered <<and often direct you to documentation and someone who can >>>> program it for <<you at a cost. It might be non paying users only had >>>> community support >>>> >>>> To me it sounds like Lucas has the tin can support which is similar to >>>> open source support. >>>> >>>> Ie post and pray😉 >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 4:34 PM, Robert Forsyth >>>> <robert.sty...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Old product used QNX 6, had long (6 months~1 year) trial licence for >>>> 7.0, I think I was able to build the file-system image, but could not get >>>> the driver for vector graphics processor to recognize the hardware, so the >>>> tiger demo did not work on AM5728 BB X15. (This is probably because GC320 >>>> is a compositor, not vector-graphics like GC355.) >>>> >>>> We did not have gold level support, questions often take days to be >>>> answered and often direct you to documentation and someone who can program >>>> it for you at a cost. It might be non paying users only had community >>>> support, if you are trying to sell QNX, you need to make it easy as pie to >>>> switch from something free. >>>> >>>> QNX development works well, once hardware and software development is >>>> setup, I would say it is easier to develop and debug communicating >>>> multi-process applications on QNX than Windows, Linux or RTOS (QNX IPC >>>> coincided with what I learned at uni); if you don't try to do it the Linux >>>> way. RTOS probably has the closest IPC ability to QNX, but way cruder; QNX >>>> has lovely variable length message passing. >>>> Technical and library problems seemed often like Windows: you know what >>>> you want to do, and you found a function which seems like it would do what >>>> you want, but the documentation says something like "setWombat( x ) sets >>>> the wombat to x" and you find you have spent hours/days finding how it >>>> works. >>>> Some drivers were based on Linux version, using QNX version >>>> >>>> Linux and RTOS are free, process isolation with separate processors is >>>> cheapish, but takes up PCB space. I think Qt sold infotainment, QNX would >>>> useful for process isolation on one (multi-core) processor, so you could >>>> isolate the infotainment application from the air-bag monitor. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, 4 Mar 2021 at 18:41, 'Mark Lazarewicz' via BeagleBoard < >>>> beagl...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Robert >>>> >>>> That's good to know I saw the x15 7.0 BSP >>>> Where you able to rebuild BSP sources ? >>>> And do they actually respond to support questions for educational >>>> users? 😉 >>>> >>>> >>>> Looks like most of their revenue comes from automobile infotainmen at >>>> least the people hiring recently >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 12:35 PM, robert.sty...@gmail.com >>>> <robert.sty...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> 7.0 worked on X15 except vector graphics >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 4 March 2021 at 17:51:42 UTC lazarman wrote: >>>> >>>> Page 15 of the pdf you sent we need that document >>>> >>>> . Please refer to the QNX SDP 6.6.0 BSPs guide, available as part of >>>> the QNX Software Development Platform OS Core Components documentation >>>> >>>> I also need you to see if you can get the latest BSP referenced in my >>>> previous post I think it was 7.0 >>>> >>>> I have uncovered at least 5 problems with your original posting its a >>>> QXX documentation mismatch not you. I am concerned this stuff you started >>>> with is very old and probally not supported by Blackberry >>>> >>>> You have to start simple and slowly and logically so be patient before >>>> we start with 7.0 we need the document above >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 12:58:16 PM CST, 'Mark Lazarewicz' via >>>> BeagleBoard <beagl...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> These commands you entered are where? uboot? >>>> >>>> --> fatload mmc 0 0x81000000 prebuilt-bsp-ti-beaglebone.ifs >>>> --> go 0x81000000 >>>> >>>> Why not automate these commands ? >>>> >>>> <<<if I compile the BSP without modifying anything, I should get the >>>> prebuilt image, right ? >>>> >>>> In theory if you have a license BUT >>>> some RTOS companies dont supply BSP source code unless you paid fees >>>> >>>> So do you need to modify BSP> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, 09:03:22 AM CST, Lucas SOLDA < >>>> lucas...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark, >>>> >>>> I have a BeagleBone Black REV C. >>>> There was nothing on the SD before. I did not touch to the EMC so I >>>> think there is nothing inside. >>>> My company has a QNX 6.5.0 SP1 licence and here is the list of the >>>> tools installed on my computer: >>>> >>>> [image: 1.png] >>>> [image: 2.jpg] >>>> >>>> First, I formated my SD card in FAT32, I made it active by using >>>> diskpart and I copied the MLO and then the u-boot files. I took them from >>>> here : >>>> https://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.bsp/wiki/TiAm335Beaglebone >>>> Bootloader modules# >>>> <https://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.bsp/wiki/TiAm335Beaglebone#section-TiAm335Beaglebone-BootloaderModules> >>>> --> >>>> *"Click here >>>> <http://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.mlo_and_u_boot_binaries_for_beag> >>>> to >>>> download the MLO and u-boot binaries for the new Beaglebone Black >>>> platform. >>>> "* >>>> >>>> After that, I downloaded the BSP files: QNX Neutrino 6.5.0 SP1# >>>> <https://community.qnx.com/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.bsp/wiki/TiAm335Beaglebone#section-TiAm335Beaglebone-QNXNeutrino6.5.0SP1> >>>> --> *Download *Project Downloads >>>> <http://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.qnx_650_bsp_beaglebone_1_00_zip> >>>> --> bsp-nto650-ti-beaglebone-sp1-trunk-201209071340.zip >>>> <https://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/downloadFile/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.qnx_650_bsp_beaglebone_1_00_zip/frs36857?dl=1> >>>> (I attach MLO, u-boot and BSP to this mail) >>>> After extracting, I copied the file "prebuilt-bsp-ti-beaglebone.ifs" in >>>> the "image" folder to my sdcard and I could succesfully launch QNX on my >>>> BBB by typing these commands : >>>> --> fatload mmc 0 0x81000000 prebuilt-bsp-ti-beaglebone.ifs >>>> --> go 0x81000000 >>>> >>>> That worked perfectly. >>>> >>>> When I try to compile the image by myself it gets complicated. >>>> >>>> if I compile the BSP without modifying anything, I should get the >>>> prebuilt image, right ? >>>> The problem is that, when I do that, I have the message I gave in the >>>> first post and it says that I compile with QNX 6.5.0 and not with QNX >>>> 6.5.0 >>>> SP1 (whereas it is installed). >>>> >>>> *"I'm guessing you have no support forum or no ones replying at QNX?" *I >>>> don't have support anymore and the only thing the told me is that I don't >>>> use QNX 6.5.0 SP1 >>>> >>>> I don't know what to do anymore and the QNX SDP is not on my computer >>>> so I can't use it whenever I want >>>> >>>> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 à 15:03:47 UTC+1, lazarman a écrit : >>>> >>>> Let's start with some history about what rev board you have , what was >>>> on SD before and whats in the emc now and details about tools you >>>> installed to build BSP and QNX and exactly the BSP file's you are >>>> compiling >>>> as well as your goals. Are you trying to eventually modify the BSP source? >>>> I'm guessing you have no support forum or no ones replying at QNX? >>>> I need a clear picture of what you did exactly installing tools as in >>>> did you install multiple times etc etc >>>> >>>> I'll look at the pdf you supplied and ponder whether it worthwhile and >>>> practical to find my Beagleboard,Whites,blacks or even Pandaboard. >>>> power supplies may be hard to match I've moved a lot. I guess a black >>>> would be easy for me to find but may be in storage. >>>> >>>> Also maybe they will let me reeducate myself as I'm not working on a >>>> commercial product and give me access otherwise it's harder to help. >>>> >>>> Hopefully I can get you on the right path >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 1:15 AM, Lucas SOLDA >>>> <lucas...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I can send you the files if you don't have an account. >>>> >>>> I use the MLO and u-boot files for beaglebone black from this link : >>>> "Click *here >>>> <http://community.qnx.com/sf/frs/do/viewRelease/projects.bsp/frs.texas_instruments_am335_beaglebo.mlo_and_u_boot_binaries_for_beag>* >>>> to >>>> download the MLO and u-boot binaries for the new Beaglebone Black >>>> platform.". >>>> >>>> The fact you pointed is troubling. I don't understand why the BSP is >>>> unchanged between beagleboard and BBB. >>>> >>>> "*Perhaps if you disassemble the binary and look at the bone memory >>>> map and the linker map and the u boot load address for QNX there's a >>>> mismatch * >>>> *do you have access to BSP users guide? " * >>>> >>>> I will try to do that but I'm not an expert. I have access to the user >>>> guide yes... >>>> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 à 08:09:38 UTC+1, Lucas SOLDA a écrit : >>>> >>>> @lazarman, in fact I'm not a student and I have a company account with >>>> a QNX 6.5.0 SP1 licence. I have also already registered to the" QNX >>>> Software Development Platform 6.5.x (registration)" link that you gave me. >>>> The problem is not the fact that I can't download and install the SDP but >>>> the fact that when I build the image thanks to the BSP, I don't have the >>>> same result as the prebuilt image >>>> >>>> Le mercredi 3 mars 2021 à 00:24:34 UTC+1, lazarman a écrit : >>>> >>>> Hi Robert I think Lucas is saying he's only trying to build the BSP not >>>> QNX. >>>> >>>> I did this 10 years ago and I also had the latest BSP guides I tried >>>> getting these and you need a customer login. It says it's free for >>>> education but again BlackBerry bought this. >>>> >>>> What's funny is this link below takes you to another page which says we >>>> support these processors. It also says you should lose the latest >>>> version's >>>> >>>> QNX SDP 7.0 BSP for Texas Instruments AM335x (Beaglebone Black) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> https://blackberry.qnx.com/en/support/qnx-board-support-packages >>>> >>>> Clicking on the above link next to the BSP you see another page saying >>>> >>>> >>>> The QNX Software Center enables you to download and manage QNX Software >>>> Development Platform version 7.x and related products. PDF documentation >>>> and Licensing information relating to QNX SDP 7 and related products can >>>> also be found here. *IMPORTANT: SDP 7.x licenses are initially >>>> delivered within the myQNX License Manager >>>> <https://www.qnx.com/account/dashboard/%22> and MUST be assigned to users >>>> via the license manager in order for them to access the product.* >>>> >>>> And no code just a login. >>>> >>>> That BSP Lucas references is over 6 year's old. >>>> >>>> Even 10 year's ago you needed a valid company domain and email address >>>> for QNX I know GreenHills and maybe WindRiver as well wouldn't even reply >>>> to a free email domain and definitely won't give you a 30 day level >>>> license key that the license manager needed >>>> >>>> Lucas is this for education 😉?? 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