On Tuesday, May 7, 2002, at 09:15 , Nikola Janceski wrote:
[..]
> The factual part, I could do a system call and 'touch' the links to the 
> time
> I want. But I was hoping for a perl way of doing that.
[..]

this could be a 'semantic' issue - and I am jack rabbitting on
the token 'link' here - but lets rule out the obvious first.

lets try this another way.

the case of 'hard links'.

vladimir: 62:] ls -li bob frodo
frodo: No such file or directory
  237948538 -rw-r--r--   1 drieux   house        134 May  2 17:49 bob
vladimir: 63:] ln bob frodo
vladimir: 64:] ls -li bob frodo
  237948538 -rw-r--r--   2 drieux   house        134 May  2 17:49 bob
  237948538 -rw-r--r--   2 drieux   house        134 May  2 17:49 frodo
vladimir: 65:] touch frodo
vladimir: 66:] !ls
ls -li bob frodo
  237948538 -rw-r--r--   2 drieux   house        134 May 11 16:53 bob
  237948538 -rw-r--r--   2 drieux   house        134 May 11 16:53 frodo
vladimir: 67:]

note that since there is only one inode in the 'file table'
and it just happens to have two 'name' entries in the 'file table'

what occurs is that the 'file' got updated.

we notice that the problem with 'symbolic links' is that they
do not change - because the system wanders through and does
the 'touch' on the file it is linked to.

vladimir: 68:] ls -l hom* ind*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 drieux   house         10 Jan 28 20:43 home.html -> 
index.html
-rwxr--r--   1 drieux   house      13627 May 11 16:51 index.html
vladimir: 69:] touch home.html
vladimir: 70:] ls -l hom* ind*
lrwxrwxrwx   1 drieux   house         10 Jan 28 20:43 home.html -> 
index.html
-rwxr--r--   1 drieux   house      13627 May 11 16:55 index.html
vladimir: 71:]

that being clarified - why in GOD's Little Green Earth are
we trying to set the 'time' to being older....

vladimir: 93:] ls -ld DTV index.html
drwxr-xr-x   2 drieux   house       4096 Jul 12  1997 DTV
-rwxr--r--   1 drieux   house      13627 May 11 16:55 index.html
vladimir: 94:] touch -r DTV index.html
vladimir: 95:] ls -ld DTV index.html
drwxr-xr-x   2 drieux   house       4096 Jul 12  1997 DTV
-rwxr--r--   1 drieux   house      13627 Jul 12  1997 index.html
vladimir: 96:]

that a thing can be done does not clearly lead one to need to do it???


ciao
drieux

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