I did not see my reply in the mailing list, so I asume that something went wrong and I need to resend my reply.
Moinak Ghosh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> 3. I remember a team member fixing a customer escalated bug when he > >> figured out that a particular supposedly binary search for looking > >> up > >> pathnames was actually doing a linear search - some messy code. > > > >> This only points to the age of the codebase, 25yrs approx. Old and > >> somewhat clunky with a whole bunch of commands and libs. > > > > Isn't this something that should be be fixed with pkgserv? > > > > I am able to install the whole ON base within less than 2 minutes over the > > network, even though the packages are compressed via xz -9. It would be of > > interest to know what time you get..... > > > > Could you please fetch: > > > > > > http://download.berlios.de/pub/schillix-on/packages/pkgs-schillix-on.txt > > > > and follow the instructions. Note that this works directly with pkgadd over > > the > > network. > > Will check ... I would be interested to see how long it takes for you. > > The packages system was created in 1982, so it is 30 years old. But not the > > time of creation matters... > > Age will not matter if the code is properly maintained. How old is > the Solaris > kernel ? SVR4 code has been badly maintained due various factors including > bad management that I do not like to discuss here. Sun in general was bad with maintaining existing software. They left a lot of software unmaintained during the past 20 years. However replacing existing software by new one is usually a suboptimal decision. IPS fixed some problems from the SVr4 package system, but introduced a lot of new bugs that never have been present with pkgadd. > >> I actually respect SVR4 as a concept but am not interested in doing > >> anything > >> with its current codebase. > > > > Well, if we look at what existing OpenSolaris based distros use, there only > > seems to be IPS and from what I've seen with IPS during the past 2 years, I > > don't like to use it. > > The worst case happens when I try to install a new package in my > OpenIndiana > installation after a gap of say one month. Several minutes just to get a > pkg > of a few hundred KBs in size over my 8MBps link. Most of the time is spent > in plan creation I think. So the expected download time for the set of SchilliX-ON base pacakges should be around 2 minutes. I guess that a complete install will take 3 minutes. > > > > On the other side, why take something completely new if there is experiences > > with a mature existing system? > > > > My point is the mature system is missing very key pieces like package > management. Working on adding it will amount to re-doing a solved problem. pkgadd manages packages, so what do you understand by package management? > My preference is to use a ready-made tested solution. In addition I simply > do not like the SVR4 code. You can call it personal bias, but that is how > it > is. I want SVR4 support but in a different way. On the other side, IPS is not ready for even be discussed with me, as I like to use an established systen, it seems that the svr4 package system is the best base. > I want to focus my efforts to better explore Pacman and see how to add > Solaris platform and SVR4 support there. There are multiple options > including > an alien kind of converter: http://joeyh.name/code/alien/ > So one can auto-convert from SVR4 format to Pacman format. I cannot see that this support svr4 packages, but I am shure it will not support IPS. So did you think about the fact that Illumos only supports IPS? Jörg -- EMail:[email protected] (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin [email protected] (uni) [email protected] (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily _______________________________________________ belenix-discuss mailing list http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/belenix-discuss http://groups.google.com/group/belenix-discuss
