Jim,

And what now RTC has to do with this discussion ???

r.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:51 PM, UTTARO, JAMES <ju1...@att.com> wrote:

> IMO there are more important reasons why one does not deploy RTC.
>
> Jim Uttaro
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Mach Chen
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 2:05 AM
> To: Haoweiguo; Henderickx, Wim (Wim); Thomas Morin; BESS
> Cc: IDR Chairs
> Subject: Re: [bess] 答复: 答复: 答复: Flowspec for L2VPN and E-VPN
>
> Hi Weiguo, Wim and others,
>
> IMHO, AFI/SAFI based Flowspec would have better scalability and
> compatibility. There is a precedent (RT-Constrain) that adopted the unified
> RT for all AFI/SAFI that bring many limitation when deploying RTC.
>
> Best regards,
> Mach
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Haoweiguo
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 8:42 AM
> > To: Henderickx, Wim (Wim); Thomas Morin; BESS
> > Cc: IDR Chairs
> > Subject: [bess] 答复: 答复: 答复: Flowspec for L2VPN and E-VPN
> >
> > Hi Wim,
> > It seems to be a solution. Another problem:
> > Current BGP flow spec for L2 VPN /L3 VPN relies on Rout Target for policy
> > import/export. If using unified solution, RT can't overlap between
> different
> > applications(L2VPN,L3VPN...). If using separating AFI/SAFI solution, no
> RT
> > constraint issue.
> > Maybe there are other questions for unified solution, i would like to
> hear other
> > expert's comments on your proposal.
> > Thanks
> > weiguo
> >
> > ________________________________________
> > 发件人: BESS [bess-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> > [wim.henderi...@alcatel-lucent.com]
> > 发送时间: 2014年11月14日 8:27
> > 收件人: Haoweiguo; Thomas Morin; BESS
> > 抄送: IDR Chairs
> > 主题: Re: [bess] 答复:  答复:  Flowspec for L2VPN and E-VPN
> >
> > We define a new AFI/SAFI that accommodates all we have + include L2
> > extensions.
> > Operators that don’t need L2 extensions keep what they have.
> > Operators that need L2 extensions go to the new method or mix the new
> > method with the old methods per service type.
> >
> > Make sense?
> >
> > On 13/11/14 14:16, "Haoweiguo" <haowei...@huawei.com> wrote:
> >
> > >How to achieve compatability with current existed flowspec[RFC5575]
> > >applications?
> > >Thanks
> > >weiguo
> > >
> > >________________________________________
> > >发件人: Henderickx, Wim (Wim) [wim.henderi...@alcatel-lucent.com]
> > >发送时间: 2014年11月14日 8:14
> > >收件人: Haoweiguo; Thomas Morin; BESS
> > >抄送: IDR Chairs
> > >主题: Re: 答复: [bess] Flowspec for L2VPN and E-VPN
> > >
> > >If we define a new things I prefer to address the wider issue and
> > >include
> > >L2 in that.
> > >
> > >On 13/11/14 14:13, "Haoweiguo" <haowei...@huawei.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Hi Wim,
> > >>Allocating different AFI/SAFI(s) for each flow spec application is a
> > >>applicable solution. Theoretically, unified mechanism for all flowspec
> > >>can be designed, but it maybe a more harder work in IDR.
> > >>Thanks
> > >>weiguo
> > >>
> > >>________________________________________
> > >>发件人: BESS [bess-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Henderickx, Wim (Wim)
> > >>[wim.henderi...@alcatel-lucent.com]
> > >>发送时间: 2014年11月14日 7:55
> > >>收件人: Thomas Morin; BESS
> > >>抄送: IDR Chairs
> > >>主题: Re: [bess] Flowspec for L2VPN and E-VPN
> > >>
> > >>As I stated in the IDR meeting my observation is that we require to
> > >>many
> > >>AFI/SAFI(s) for all flow spec functions. Flow spec in general is
> > >>providing match criteria¹s with related actions. Given the proposal on
> > >>Flowspec for
> > >>L2 is new we should look at the bigger picture.
> > >>In My view we need a mechanism in BGP to advertise Flowspec match
> > >>criteria¹s with related actions and they should cover L2/L3-IPv4/IPv6.
> > >>
> > >>On 13/11/14 13:44, "Thomas Morin" <thomas.mo...@orange.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>Hi WG,
> > >>>
> > >>>A heads up...
> > >>>
> > >>>These two drafts relate to BESS and thus may be of interest to us:
> > >>>- draft-hao-idr-flowspec-l2vpn
> > >>><http://tools.ietf.org/html?draft=draft-hao-idr-flowspec-l2vpn-01>
> > >>>(on idr agenda, being presented right now)
> > >>>- draft-hao-idr-flowspec-evpn
> > >>><https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hao-idr-flowspec-evpn-00>
> > >>>
> > >>>Best,
> > >>>
> > >>>-Thomas
> > >>>
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