Hi Martin,

We have just implemented RFC7814 a couple of months before in response to the 
demands of some of our customers, and those customers have deployed this 
L3-based overlay technology within their hyper-scale cloud data center network 
environment recently. We are planning to implement 
draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet-fib-reduction in the next step.

I have just noticed the following statement from 
(https://www.ravellosystems.com/blog/cloud-networking-layer-2-access-amazon-ec2/):

"... All major clouds, including Amazon EC2, Amazon VPC, Google Compute Engine 
and Microsoft Azure, allow only unicast datagrams with IP payloads. Broadcast 
datagrams and non-IP payloads are not allowed (with very limited exceptions to 
make parts of the essential ARP and DHCP protocols work). "

IMHO, when the L3 overlay technology is more widely deployed in hyper-scale 
data centers, the on-demand FIB installation mechanism as described in 
draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet-fib-reduction would become significantly 
important to the operators of those hyper-scale data centers . Once this 
mechanism becomes an IETF standard, those operators would ask their vendors to 
implement it. In fact, this is the case of our implementation of RFC7814. 
Hence, I strongly suggest to move this to IESG.

BTW, since it has become a fact that various data plane encapsulation schemes 
could be used for the L3VPN solution, hence I wonder whether the implementation 
of L3 Conversational Learning of DFA as described on page 36 of 
(http://www.valleytalk.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/ciscoDFA.pdf) could be 
looked as an existing implementation:)

Best regards,
Xiaohu

> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: BESS [mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Martin Vigoureux
> 发送时间: 2016年10月11日 23:01
> 收件人: BESS
> 主题: [bess] Lack of implementation for
> draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet-fib-reduction - submit to IESG?
> 
> WG,
> 
> we have recently LCed draft-ietf-bess-virtual-subnet-fib-reduction and there 
> was
> sufficient support to move forward. However we haven't received any input on
> existing implementations.
> 
> As per [1] we are thus asking the WG whether we should nevertheless move this
> to IESG or wait until implementations exist.
> 
> Please respond. Thank you.
> 
> 
> M&T
> 
> [1]:
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw
> 
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