Hi Russ,

Thank you very much for reviewing. We published version 04 to address your 
comments.
Please see my comments in-line with [jorge].

Thanks.
Jorge

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Date: Friday, October 22, 2021 at 10:06 PM
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Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org <rtg-...@ietf.org>, 
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Subject: RtgDir Last Call review: draft-ietf-bess-pbb-evpn-isid-cmacflush
Hello,

I have been selected as the Routing Directorate reviewer for this draft. The 
Routing Directorate seeks to review all routing or routing-related drafts as 
they pass through IETF last call and IESG review, and sometimes on special 
request. The purpose of the review is to provide assistance to the Routing ADs. 
For more information about the Routing Directorate, please see 
​http://trac.tools.ietf.org/area/rtg/trac/wiki/RtgDir

Although these comments are primarily for the use of the Routing ADs, it would 
be helpful if you could consider them along with any other IETF Last Call 
comments that you receive, and strive to resolve them through discussion or by 
updating the draft.

Document: draft-ietf-bess-pbb-evpn-isid-cmacflush
Reviewer: Russ White
Review Date: 22 October 2021
Intended Status: Standards Track

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Summary:

This document is basically ready for publication but has nits that should be 
considered prior to publication. Overall, the document is readable--the 
labeling and layout of the diagrams can be confusing, however (see notes below 
on figure 1). The flow of the document is fine, and the solution description 
seems to be sufficient for a reader with knowledge of PBB and eVPN to 
understand what is being done to resolve the problem.

Major Issues:

None.

Minor Issues:

Based on the description given for figure 1, it seems that ISID1 is a single 
device connected once to CE1, once to CE2, and once to CE3. In turn, CE3 
apparently has two connections into the PBB-eVPN network. If this is all 
correct, then I find the diagram confusing.

ISID1 appears to be a _label_ for the three CE devices, rather than connected 
to them ... or are the three CE's actually the same device as ISID1? Or is 
ISID1 a different device, connected (according to the labels) to an MPLS Ag 
network and a G.8032 access ring? This configuration seems a little odd to me.

The connectivity shown between PE3, PE4, and CE3 is not clear. Are there two 
links from PE3 and CE3, or one? If there is one, why are there two different 
sets of lines, one of which is labeled "vES null," and the other labeled with 
the state of the connection (act or stb)? What is the significance of this 
particular connection layout?

The terms "act" and "stb" are not used anywhere in the text; in theory, 
somewhere above when the word "standby" is used, it would have a note saying 
"denoted as stb in the diagram below," or something similar. Otherwise, the 
reader is left trying to understand what the labels "act" and "stb" mean.

What is the significance of the "MPLS Ag Network" in the lower right corner of 
the diagram? If this is supposed to label the part of the network which is not 
PBB-eVPN, then shouldn't it be below the diagram, similar to how the label for 
the PBB-eVPN network is above the network? Is there any reason that it matters 
for this use case that the vES null attached PEs or devices are part of some 
other MPLS network? Could they just be part of a plain IP network? It seems to 
me, reading the text, that the impact would be the same even if these devices 
were part of a plain IP network?

I see, on the right side, the label "MPLS Ag," and (possibly) a corresponding 
label on the left side saying "G.8032 Access Ring." It seems a bit odd that the 
label for the PBB-eVPN network is above the diagram, but these two labels, 
which appear to refer to other parts of the network appear to be incorprated 
into the diagram itself (?). Why this difference? If these are denoting 
different parts of the network, it would help the reader understand the diagram 
better if they were all in the same location in the diagram (?).
[jorge] I simplified the diagram following your recommendations, and also 
elaborated in the description of the diagram, in the text right below the 
figure. Hope both things can address your concerns and provide clarity.


Are the kinds of network outside the PBB-eVPN network important? Does it matter 
if one of the two connections from ISID1 (I'm assuming there's a single device 
here) is through an MPLS network of some other type, and its other connections 
is through an access ring? Would it make any difference if the entire diagram 
were simplified to show a single device connected via plain Ethernet in three 
different places, one of which has redudant links into the PBB-eVPN network? I 
understand there is underlying resilience in these different technologies, but 
I'm not certain how that impacts the operation of the mechanism described in 
the draft.
[jorge] when PBB-EVPN is deployed and the RFC7623 multi-homing procedures are 
NOT implemented, the two typical deployment models for CE redundancy are the 
ones in the diagram – G.8032 and A/S PW, that’s why we wanted to cover those 
for the reader to identify the procedures with specific use-cases.


Nits:

4b is missing a "T."
[jorge] fixed, thanks.



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:-) /r
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