Hi all,
I have doubts regarding the text in Section 1.2 of the draft that refers to 
LSPs (as opposed to PWs) as virtual Ethernet Segments.

The problematic (from my POV) text refers to Figure 2 and says (the problematic 
part is highlighted):


   In such scenarios, a virtual ES (vES) is defined as a set of
   individual PWs if they cannot be aggregated into a common LSP.  If
   the aggregation of PWs is possible, the vES can be associated to an
   LSP in a given PE.  In the example of Figure 2, EVC3 is connected to
   a VPWS instance in AG2 that is connected to PE1 and PE2 via PW3 and
   PW5 respectively.  EVC4 is connected to a separate VPWS instance on
   AG2 that gets connected to an EVI on PE1 and PE2 via PW4 and PW6,
   respectively.  Since the PWs for the two VPWS instances can be
   aggregated into the same LSPs going to the MPLS network, a common
   virtual ES can be defined for LSP1 and LSP2.  This vES will be shared
   by two separate EVIs in the EVPN network.


The problem with the highlighted text is that PE1 and PE2 always can identify 
the PW from which they receive this or that packet, but, in most cases, cannot 
identify the LSP in which this PW has been running.
(The only exception of which I am aware, is the case of static PWEs in 
bi-directional MPLS-TP LSPs).
If LSP1 and LSP2 were components of a common virtual MH ES,  PE1, upon 
reception of a BUM packet from PW4, would not be able to identify this MH ES 
and to insert a suitable ESI label into the EVPN encapsulation of the copy it 
would be sending to PE2.

IMHO and FWIW some clarification (e.g., restricting ability to use LSPs as 
virtual Ethernet Segments to just bi-directional MPLS-TP LSPs?) would be very 
much in place.

Hopefully these notes will be useful.

Regards,
Sasha

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   EVPN and PBB-EVPN introduce a family of solutions for multipoint
   Ethernet services over MPLS/IP network with many advanced features
   among which their multi-homing capabilities.  These solutions
   introduce Single-Active and All-Active for an Ethernet Segment (ES),
   itself defined as a set of physical links between the multi-homed
   device/network and a set of PE devices that they are connected to.
   This document extends the Ethernet Segment concept so that an ES can
   be associated to a set of EVCs (e.g., VLANs) or other objects such as
   MPLS Label Switch Paths (LSPs) or Pseudowires (PWs), referred to as
   Virtual Ethernet Segments (vES).  This draft describes the
   requirements and the extensions needed to support vES in EVPN and
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Regards,
Sasha


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