Hi Neeraj, Yes, version -13 looks good.
Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA d3e...@gmail.com On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 1:21 PM Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr) <nmalh...@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Donald, > > > > Thanks again for the additional points. I have addressed all of the > additional comments below in the latest rev13. Please do let me know if there > is any additional input before we can move further. > > > > Thanks, > > Neeraj > > > > From: Donald Eastlake <d3e...@gmail.com> > Date: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 at 10:53 AM > To: Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr) <nmalh...@cisco.com> > Cc: bess-cha...@ietf.org <bess-cha...@ietf.org>, > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org > <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org>, rtg-...@ietf.org > <rtg-...@ietf.org>, BESS <bess@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: RtgDir Early review: > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-10.txt > > Hi Neeraj, > > > > Sorry for the delay in responding. > > > > Generally my comments have been incorporated and, I think, all my issues > addressed. However, some problems were introduced by the changes and there > are some nits: > > - The RFC 2119 & 8174 boilerplate language should presumably be in Section 2 > but has disappeared from the draft. > > - Square bracketed references are not allowed in the Abstract. You need to > change those in the Abstract back to just "RFC 7432" or perhaps "RFC 7432bis". > > - Although in my comments I said the draft should be shown as updating "RFC > 7432", the Updates: line on the title page takes only numbers so it should > just say "7432". > > > > Also, the references to RFC 826 and RFC 4861 need the space removed at the > square bracketed reference in the text body and to be added to the References > section > > and you should update references: > > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding -> RFC 9135 > > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-proxy-arp-nd -> 9161 > > > > I have no idea if the reason you state will be good enough for the IESG to > allow >5 authors. > > > > Thanks, > Donald > =============================== > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) > 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA > d3e...@gmail.com > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2023 at 4:00 PM Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr) > <nmalh...@cisco.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Donald, > > > > Rev12 of the draft also takes care of the missing note with respect to six > authors on the draft. Please do let me know if there is anything else beyond > the earlier review comments that needs to be addressed. > > > > If not, would like to request on behalf of all authors to move this forward. > > > > Thanks, > > Neeraj > > > > From: Neeraj Malhotra (nmalhotr) <nmalh...@cisco.com> > Date: Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 4:23 PM > To: Donald Eastlake <d3e...@gmail.com>, bess-cha...@ietf.org > <bess-cha...@ietf.org>, > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org > <draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility....@ietf.org> > Cc: rtg-...@ietf.org <rtg-...@ietf.org>, BESS <bess@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: RtgDir Early review: > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-10.txt > > > > Hi Donald, > > > > Many thanks for the details review and comments. I have published version 11 > of the document that incorporates all of your comments. Please also see > inline below for some additional clarifications. > > > > This document repeatedly says that it may be considered a clarification of > RFC 7432. I believe it is true that the behavior specified in this document > is permitted by RFC 7432 but other behaviors are permitted and perhaps > common. In order to handle the mobility cases covered in this document the > behaviors in the document would have to be implemented or some other solution > adopted. Thus I think the title page header should show this document as > updating RFC 7432 and this should be mentioned in the Abstract and > Introduction. > > > > [NM]: Ack. I have updated the text in the abstract and introduction sections > to say that this document updates sequence number procedures defined in > [RFC7432] in addition to the title page header. > > > > It seems to me that the last paragraph of Section 7.2 ignores the case where > Mx-IPx with sequence number N movez to Mz-IPx where child IP-MACs under Mz > were currently being advertised with sequence number M where M > N. The > paragraph says the new Mz sequence number must be incremented to N+1 but if > M>N I think it must be incremented to M+1. I have suggested changes to the > last two paragraphs of Section 7.2 in the attached. > > > > [NM]: that’s a really good catch. A later section (8) does cover this but the > example in section 7.2 was missing this condition. Updated. > > > > Drafts should generally be worded so the text will be correct in the final > RFC. So both occurrences of "proposed" in this draft should be replaced by > "specified" or "defined" and occurrences of "draft" in the body text should > be replaced with "document". > > > > [NM] updated. > > > > Section 2.1 lists subsequent sections as Informative or Normative but omits > Sections 3 and 7. I think Section 3 is Informative. The right category for > Section 7 is a bit unclear but I'm inclined towards normative. > > > > [NM]: Updated as above – except that I am also a bit unclear if section 7 > should be listed as normative as it is doing some ground work for the > specifications in subsequent normative sections using some examples but is > not meant to provide a complete specification. I have left it out for now, > but happy to include it as normative if needed. > > > > Section 10.2 refers to section 6.1 but there isn't any section 6.1. The > bullet point in Section 10.2 seems essentially incomplete: What "MUST be > higher than the "Mz" sequence number"? > > In the last sentence of Section 4.3.1, it is not completely clear what "It" > refers to. Assuming it is the interpretation in the previous sentence, I > suggest "It could be interpreted as" -> "This interpretation could be > considered". > > "GW devices" occurs only once in this document in Section 2 and GW is never > expanded. I suggest, assuming this is correct, that the phrase be replaced > with "PE devices". > > In section 9, since it is not expanded and not listed in the glossary, I > think "EXT-COMM" -> "Extended Community". > > Based on the usual order of RFC Sections and the RFC Editor's recommended > table of contents, I think Sections 1 and 2 should be swapped. > > The requirements language boilerplate at the beginning of Section 1 needs to > be updated to the latest version also normatively referencing RFC 8174. > > > > [NM]: incorporated all of the above comments and all inline changes in the > marked-up document. > > > > The document references RFC 7432 but I think it should reference the > rfc7432bis draft instead. > > > > [NM]: updated the reference link to point to RFC7432bis. > > > > I am doubtful that there are truly no new security considerations. At a > minimum, I would think the Security Consideration section (section 11) should > refer readers to the Security Considerations sections of [EVPN-IRB] and > rfc7432bis and should state that the methods specified in this document will > increase the consumption of sequence numbers. > > > > [NM]: added security section. > > > > RFCs are generally limited to a maximum of five authors. This document lists > six but does say why it needs to list that many. This could be in a first > page note to be deleted before publication. > > > > [NM]: missed adding this – let me wait a couple of days in case there are any > additional comments and if not, update this by end of this week. > > > > Nits: > > Abstract: "Procedure to handle host mobility" -> "The procedure to handle > host mobility" > > Section 2, first sentence: "EVPN-IRB enables capability ..." -> "EVPN-IRB > enables the capability ... > > Section 2: "Purpose of this draft is to define additional ..." => "This > document defines additional ... " > > Section 4.3.1: "Complication with this ..." -> "The complication with this > ..." > > Section 8.8: "This sections is to be treated as optional ..." -> "This > section is optional ..." > > Although the above stuck out a bit more to me, there are many other nits > including some spelling typos and a duplicated word, so I went through > marking what I consider to be fixes and these are shown in the attached. > > > > [NM]: incorporated all of the above comments and all inline changes in the > marked-up document. > > > > I hope this review is helpful. > > > > [NM]: absolutely, a much cleaner read. > > > > Thanks, > > Neeraj _______________________________________________ BESS mailing list BESS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess