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From: Joel Halpern <j...@joelhalpern.com> Sent: 06 October 2023 14:24 To: adr...@olddog.co.uk; 'Matthew Bocci (Nokia)' <matthew.bo...@nokia.com>; bess@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-us...@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] WG Adoption Poll for draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-uasge-16 The rules for joint works are somewhat esoteric, but the short answer is that any of the authors have the right to grant rights on behalf of all the authors because of the "joint" work nature. Yours, Joel On 10/6/2023 9:19 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: Thanks, Joel. That’s really helpful. Pedantically, suppose there was an author on the old draft who is not an author on the new draft? (I think we are into esoteric grounds here, but just wondering.) A From: Joel Halpern <mailto:j...@joelhalpern.com> <j...@joelhalpern.com> Sent: 06 October 2023 14:08 To: adr...@olddog.co.uk <mailto:adr...@olddog.co.uk> ; 'Matthew Bocci (Nokia)' <mailto:matthew.bo...@nokia.com> <matthew.bo...@nokia.com>; bess@ietf.org <mailto:bess@ietf.org> Cc: draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-us...@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-us...@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [bess] WG Adoption Poll for draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-uasge-16 Not speaking for the trust, but as someone who has worked in the rights pace for IETF for quite some time, if the authors update the rights grant to grant the needed rights (by replacing the boilerplate), then the new draft grants the needed rights. They have legal ability to make such a change. Sure, it is still the case that one can not work directly from the old draft. The current (-17) draft appears to grant the rights, and it is within the authors remit to do so. Yours, Joel On 10/6/2023 8:54 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: Hi Matthew, I support this being a WG document. IANAL. I don’t understand the process by which an author who previously said “no derivative works” for an I-D is able to relax that constraint in a new revision. Maybe simply posting a new revision without the constraint is enough. Maybe the constraint on the old versions still applies. Would be neat to get an opinion from the Trust or IETF Counsel. Cheers, Adrian From: BESS <mailto:bess-boun...@ietf.org> <bess-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Matthew Bocci (Nokia) Sent: 05 October 2023 11:45 To: bess@ietf.org <mailto:bess@ietf.org> Cc: draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-us...@ietf.org <mailto:draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-us...@ietf.org> Subject: [bess] WG Adoption Poll for draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-uasge-16 WG This email starts a one-week WG adoption poll for draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-uasge-16 [1] A little bit of history: A previous version was adopted, completed WG last call, and publication requested as an Informational RFC. v15 of this draft was reviewed by the IESG and found to have a restrictive clause in the boilerplate. This has now been removed, but since that clause was inconsistent with the draft having been adopted as a WG document in the first place, we have been asked to go through the process again. Please review the draft and post any comments to the BESS mailing list. This poll will close on Thursday 12th October. Regards Matthew [1] draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage-16 - SD-WAN edge nodes are commonly interconnected by multiple types of underlay networks owned and managed by different network providers. <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-sdwan-usage/16/> _______________________________________________ BESS mailing list BESS@ietf.org <mailto:BESS@ietf.org> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess
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