Luc,
Lots of thanks for a prompt response. It seems that we are actually in sync 
regarding the traffic that would use ERL.

IMHO and FWIW an explicit statement that "BUM is not in-scope of the draft, it 
is not redirected" would help the readers. It would also help to clarify that 
bypassing DF Election behavior is not relevant for All-Active and Single 
Flow-Active redundancy modes.

Regarding Port-Active redundancy mode:

  1.  Section 3.2 of Port-Active Multi-Homing  
draft<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-mh-pa-09#section-3.2>
 states that "Non-DF routers SHOULD implement a bidirectional blocking scheme 
for all traffic".  To me bidirectional blocking means that traffic is neither 
received nor transmitted via the non-DF link - can you please clarify how 
bypassing DF Election procedures can help with his?
  2.  Section 5.1 of the EVPN FRR draft says that "to support EVPN Fast 
Reroute, the CE must be able to receive traffic from an OOS LAG link ".
     *   This is a requirement for the CE which is not aware of EVPN r 
multi-homing
     *   Can you please clarify if this is aligned with IEEE 802.1AX-2014?

Regards,
Sasha




Regards,
Sasha

From: Luc Andre Burdet (lburdet) <lbur...@cisco.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 6:00 PM
To: Alexander Vainshtein <alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>
Cc: bess@ietf.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: The significance of bypassing DF Election Behavior in 
the EVPN Fast Reroute draft

Hi Sasha,

BUM is not in-scope of the draft, it is not redirected;

The Fast-Reroute draft describes 2 behaviours, terminal disposition and 
NDF-bypass. The mechanism is agnostic to the load-balancing mode: one, the 
other, or both behaviours may be applicable. You are right, in A/A the 
"NDF-bypass" is not applicable for ERL

Regards,
Luc André

Luc André Burdet  |  lbur...@cisco.com<mailto:lbur...@cisco.com>  |  Tel: +1 
613 254 4814


From: Alexander Vainshtein 
<alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com<mailto:alexander.vainsht...@rbbn.com>>
Date: Thursday, November 9, 2023 at 10:41
To: Luc Andre Burdet (lburdet) <lbur...@cisco.com<mailto:lbur...@cisco.com>>
Cc: bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org> <bess@ietf.org<mailto:bess@ietf.org>>
Subject: The significance of bypassing DF Election Behavior in the EVPN Fast 
Reroute draft
Luc and 
all,https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-burdet-bess-evpn-fast-reroute-06#section-5.1<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-burdet-bess-evpn-fast-reroute-06#section-5.1>
I have a question regarding significance of bypassing DF Election behavior in 
Section 5.1 of the EVPN Fast Reroute draft, at least in the case of All-Active 
multi-homing and EVPN-MPLS.

To the best of my understanding, in this case DF Election based filtering is 
applied only to BUM traffic. Per Section 11.2 of RFC 
7432<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7432#section-11.2> this traffic 
is carried using the label advertised in the PMSI attribute in the EVPN IMET 
route so that DF Election-based filtering can be applied only to the traffic 
received with this label:

·       In the case of ingress replication, this label is down-stream allocated 
by the egress PE and therefore would be different from the ERL label

·       In the case of P-multicast trees, this label would be 
upstream-allocated by the ingress PE and, in the case of non-aggregated 
tunnels, preceded by the label that identifies the P-multicast tree. (I am 
leaving aside the case of aggregated P-multicast trees).
I.e., in both cases, the egress PE can identify the received BUM traffic based 
on the label stack in its EVPN encapsulation and apply DF-Election-based 
filtering just to this traffic - but not to traffic received with the ESL or 
ERL labels.

What, if anything, do I miss?

Regards, and lots of thanks in advance,
Sasha



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