Hi Ketan,

Thanks for the follow-up and clarifications.

No need to cite the EANTC report. I have the information I was looking for.

Thanks.

Cheers,
Med

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Hi Med,

Thanks for your review and your suggestions. We have pushed an update that 
captures the changes discussed below along with the pending changes from Joe's 
review.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-bess-bgp-srv6-args-07

Please check inline below for a few clarifications.


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Hi Ketan, Syed, Jorge, & Wen,

Thank you for the effort put into this well-written document.

Also, thanks to Joe Clarke for the OPSDIR review. I noted that Ketan promised a
revised version ;-)

The document inherits deployment/ops considerations in RFC9252. The document
reasonably includes provisions to ease troubleshooting (logging, in
particular). Support of tracing-like capabilities would help detecting when
inconsistent structures would be interesting to investigate as future work.

Please find below some comments, many are nits:

# Expand SRv6 in the title/abstract

# The abstract should be self-contained. Consider at least adding title of the
cited RFC and expand all acronyms.

# “Internet services”: I know that 9252 uses that term but still I don’t parse
it :-) Do we meant “IP Connectivity services”? If so, consider updating that.

# Is there a special meaning associated with “BGP Service”? I see 9252 uses
both variants “BGP Services” and “BGP services”, though. Likewise, both flavors
are used in this spec. Need some clarity here.

# Section 1

## Do we have any public pointer to cite for “implementation and
interoperability testing”?

CURRENT:
   implementation and interoperability testing, it was observed that the
   specifications outlined in [RFC9252] lacked sufficient detail,
   leading to ambiguities in interpretation and implementation.

KT> EANTC has published reports starting 2022 or 2023 (IIRC). Are you asking 
for adding a citation in the document? If so, I don't see the point since none 
of the reports ever go into the interop issues observed - these are seen and 
fixed by the implementers alongside the interop testing effort.

## Can we cite an example of similar endpoint behavior?

CURRENT:
   described herein are also applicable to other similar endpoint
   behaviors with arguments that may be signaled using BGP.

KT> End.DT2M is an example. I don't see the reason for citing another one.

## (nitty nit) TPOS-O and TPOS-L are not used in RFC9252 as such. I understand
that this is introduced here for the illustration examples. Maybe add that note
as a legend to one of the example and delete these mentions here:

CURRENT:
   Consequently, the Transposition Offset (TPOS-O) and Transposition
   Length (TPOS-L) are set to zero, and references to MPLS label fields

KT> We'll keep it as it is, if that's ok.


# Section 2

## nit

OLD:
   For SRv6 SIDs
   associated with SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors that do not support argument

NEW:
   For SRv6 SIDs
   associated with SRv6 Endpoint Behaviors that do not support arguments,

## I don’t think the following a new behavior to justify the use of normative
language. Is it?

CURRENT:
    Consequently, all bits following
   the FUNC portion MUST be set to zero, and the argument length MUST be
   zero.

KT> Can you please clarify since I am not sure that I understand your 
question/comment?


## This is already part of 9252 which is updated by this doc. I don’ think the
normative language is justified here.

CURRENT:
   As specified in Section 3.2.1 of [RFC9252], the SRv6 SID Structure
   sub-sub-TLV MUST be included when signaling an SRv6 SID corresponding
   to an endpoint behavior that supports argument.

KT> If we look at the text in RFC9252, the above was not clear to some readers 
- hence this clarification.

## I guess this is using “SRv6 SID Structure Sub-Sub-TLV”. Can we say that in
the text?

CURRENT:
   Since arguments may be optional, the SRv6 Endpoint Node that owns the
   SID MUST advertise the SRv6 SID Structure along with the LOC:FUNC

# Section 3.1: Check

CURRENT:
   Since the End.DT2M behavior
   supports the use of an ARG, an SRv6 SID Structure sub-sub-TLV MUST be
   included.

Isn’t that covered by:

   “the SRv6 Endpoint Node that owns the
   SID MUST advertise the SRv6 SID Structure along with the LOC:FUNC
   portion of the SRv6 SID to indicate whether arguments are supported
   for that specific SID”?

KT> It is kind of, but implementers were looking for more clarifications to 
remove ambiguities.

Thanks,
Ketan

# Section 3.3

## (nit) s/The ingress Provider Edge (PE) router/The ingress PE

## (nit) s/Figure 7 below/Figure 7

# Section 4

OLD: specified in document in Section 3.3 MUST be used to correctly derive the
SRv6 NEW: specified in Section 3.3 MUST be used to correctly derive the SRv6

Cheers,
Med


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