I support this document progressing as an Informational draft, modulo the 
pending questions to be answered (noted below).

I see ‘Informational' as better fit, because it describes use cases of LBW 
whose normative procedures are listed in draft-ietf-idr-link-bandwidth.
It is desirable that the normative procedures listed in the LBW draft are not 
overridden in this use-case draft.

Specifically, the following line in sec 4.2 seems a little concerning to me.

> 4.2. for consistency reason, all BGP paths of a prefix MUST use a 
> contributing bandwidth based on the same source (e.g.: all paths are using 
> contributing bandwidth from the same function).

This assumes the implementations maintain meta-state about whether a LBW was 
added to the route by auto-sense, import-policy or received-on-wire. That may 
not be the case in all implementations.
Also it is not clear what is the purpose of this ‘same source’ restriction. It 
looks wrong to me. IMO, irrespective of how the LBW was arrived at, it should 
be comparable.

The following email thread has discussed this point already (along with couple 
other related points) and there has been some agreement to address it, but I 
don’t see an update to the draft yet:

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/Z-FlANErzK8U0rs5D3UfV9imqYw/

I think addressing the open questions in this email thread and updating the 
draft - will also give clarity on the informational status of the draft.

Thanks
Kaliraj
--

From: Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, March 23, 2026 at 8:26 AM
To: BESS <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>, idr-chairs 
<[email protected]>
Subject: [bess] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz extended to 
30 March, 2026.

While we have received a few positive replies about advancing this draft to 
publication, response is very light and difficult to use to gauge consensus.

Similar to the RFC 4360 draft, we're extending the last call to 30 March.

Please respond to this thread as to whether this document SHOULD or SHOULD NOT 
proceed to publication.

-- Jeff


On Mar 3, 2026, at 12:07, Jeffrey Haas <[email protected]> wrote:

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AG4aBjxiGNRmOHO9W0Ol93Ijbjgw8-54S5Nw7jv5Xpj2ke3zVZCCuFoti__qvi__FK3fPRmhz333$>

As the shepherd for the DMZ draft, this starts a working group last call for 
draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz..  This last call ends on 16 March.

Please indicate to the mailing list whether you think this document is ready to 
advance to publication or not.

The shepherd writeup for this document is located here:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz/shepherdwriteup/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-ebgp-dmz/shepherdwriteup/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AG4aBjxiGNRmOHO9W0Ol93Ijbjgw8-54S5Nw7jv5Xpj2ke3zVZCCuFoti__qvi__FK3fPT1RL6q9$>

Note that we are still waiting for an IPR attestation from Arie Vayner.  Other 
working group members that are aware of undisclosed IPR are requested to attest 
to it as part of IETF BCP 78/79.

As per BESS practices, this last call is also polling for the existence of 
implementations of this draft.  See this prior note on the practice:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AG4aBjxiGNRmOHO9W0Ol93Ijbjgw8-54S5Nw7jv5Xpj2ke3zVZCCuFoti__qvi__FK3fPaDTEjMF$>

Please also note that there is a related last call happening in IDR relating to 
RFC 4360-bis.  As BESS WG members are aware, the DMZ work was motivated to 
address the transitivity aspects of the BGP link-bandwidth extended community 
as part of the DMZ aggregation procedures.  The link bandwidth draft has 
completed IDR last call and has been sent to the IESG for publication.  The 
related work to address originating non-transitive BGP extended communities was 
moved into the RFC 4360-bis work.

Thus, if you believe DMZ should progress, please respond to the IDR last call 
on 4360-bis to help both works advance together.

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/fftaCU5jpiYynWFfgex0dkjXB4E/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/fftaCU5jpiYynWFfgex0dkjXB4E/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!AG4aBjxiGNRmOHO9W0Ol93Ijbjgw8-54S5Nw7jv5Xpj2ke3zVZCCuFoti__qvi__FK3fPe-pa_Mh$>

-- Jeff


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