erland;686974 Wrote: > You are forgetting something, i didn't forget, i just didn't explicitly state everything, b/c i figured some of it was obvious and not really the point i was trying to make anyway.
erland;686974 Wrote: > there are three main things that makes AppleTV a device people consider > to buy: > - AirPlay (Making it possible to show the iPad/iPhone image/sound on > the TV) > - iTunes Store (Making it possible to purchase/rent media via device) > - Netflix (Making it possible to view premium video content for a > monthly fee) agreed, as well as local itunes files. but logitech knows this, as evidenced by the many audio partners server has, so i'd assume if they added video, they'd add video partners as well. while they won't be able to do something as flexible as airplay, their solution is for people who don't want to do apple anyway. erland;686974 Wrote: > Without these three things, the AppleTV would be pretty useless. The > same also applies to a similar device from Logitech. It's pointless to > do video unless you also support some backend media providers. So if > Logitech ever wants to do video again, they have to make sure they have > some media providers available which provides content to the system, I'm > pretty sure this is one of the things which caused Revue to fail, just > providing support for local media files on a computer/NAS is not enough > these days. agreed, and if the revue had been done right with an open market, they could have used apps to do that stuff. erland;686974 Wrote: > Also, based on their experience with the Duet, I'm not sure Logitech > ever want to do another device completely without a display. A simple > LED or LCD display will make it so much easier for the support staff to > investigate problems. Of course, as long as you have a TV output you > should be able to use the TV for troubleshooting, so this is where > video support gets important if the devices doesn't have its own > display. exactly. i don't see any problem with this at all. apple tv sets up easy as pie with a simple 3 button remote. logitech needs to make a CHEAP audio/video adapter, and so i see no need at all for a built in display on the cheapest model. verypsb;687022 Wrote: > Well, doesn't do Sonos devices without a display quite succesfully? I > don't think the lack of the display is the problem, but the really > awkward setup with the duet/receiver. Logitech should support setup > from LMS/SN. agreed, but the initial wifi setup should be via remote and TV. Mnyb;687023 Wrote: > Or a buildt in web-page in the unit just like a router or 1000 of other > devices you hook up. > > But none of this solve the basic problem . To be reached by LMS /SN it > must already been setup at least the ethernet/wifi part . > > Ehternet is easy you just plug it in and it gets assigned ip via dhcp > . > > But to type in a wifi password you must type on something and see what > you are typing . > > You could ofcourse set it up by first connect it via ethernet and then > type in you wifi settings . > > And the whole mysqueezebox.com account speil could be performed on a > webpage after you do that. > > But it is simpler to type rigth on the device. see above, just use the TV and a simple remote. bits;687057 Wrote: > I dont think Logitech really want to try and take the AppleTV product > head on. They already said they hated GoogleTV and wouldnt be going > back. i'm talking about just a media adapter, which is really all apple tv is, lots of companies make them, but logitech has the chance to make one that has a server thats better than what other companies offer. if logitech thinks it can continue to develop SB as a niche audio product, i think its gonna die. already we've seen devs cut right and left on it. bits;687057 Wrote: > AppleTV and GoogleTV boxes are just stop gaps until people upgrade their > tv's. The new TV's include all those features already plus a boat load > more. So they are a dead end for someone like Logitech who isnt in the > TV market. 2 years and the AppleTV device will disappear and devalue > just like your digital tv set top box. > > Squeezebox as a product has worked great for Logitech, regardless of > how much you guys seem to swear it has been horrible for them. It sits > nicely in the market with basically only the Sonos competing against > it. Very few products come to mind with the advanced feature set, small > form factor and usability. > > A squeezebox with video support will only survive if it does something > new, something your smart TV sucks at or doesnt do at all. For audio > its a no brainer, the tv's always lack decent playlist support, wide > content support and small form factor. For video where can the > Squeezebox find some room for itself to sit in the market? People tend > not to have a 10,000+ file video library with perfect naming/tagging, > without mass libraries many of the TV interfaces are adequate, there is > squat all decent content providers not already covered by the smart TV's > and many smart TV's support all the file format anyone cares about > currently. i disagree. most TVs suck at dlna/audio and video. apple tv does it very well, but u gotta use itunes. i think a lot of people want a product that can do audio and video well, but that can also do audio without the TV on, and without itunes. one other thing i really think the server needs to do is accept the computers sound card output, and send it to the hardware. that would allow people to use their own software with the hardware. i think there are some 3rd party ways to do that, but it should be part of the core app and easy imo. doing the same thing with video, and or keeping the audio sync'd with video is a more difficult proposition, i understand that. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 & droid (my home) / duet & ipeng (parents' home) - sbs 7.7.2b - win7 ie9 & xp pro sp3 - p4(ht) 3.2ghz, 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655 - 55k+ mp3/flac ::VOTE FOR 'BUG 15604' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15604)!!!:: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93278 _______________________________________________ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
