dear gyanesh debating online ans sharing our thoughts is a part of our work culture it does not mean if we r debating we dont wana go on ground reality ofcouse what u r saying is very correct and imp but these debates also helps to show new ideas --- On Mon, 4/13/09, KUMAR GYANESH <[email protected]> wrote:
From: KUMAR GYANESH <[email protected]> Subject: [bm] Please accept reality To: [email protected] Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 12:18 AM Dear Family, The mails which I have seen on Yahoo group shows that we all have excellent knowledge about Indian Laws and Constitutional Laws, but I am unable to understand one thing that whether we are here to share all these knowledges within ourselves only or really we want to share these knowledges to the people other than us also, who are "Aam Janta"? What I felt that we are discussing a lot about any topic but actually nothing comes into factual things. If really we want to make changes in the society (Which is the primary moto of BM), than please stop debating within ourselves, come into field and share your expertise or your voice with the voters too. Debating within ourselves is much much easier than convincing with your thought to the people who have accepted this paralyzed system. If possible than please come into the field you will understand very easily the ground reality. With Regards, Gyanesh Thakur --- On Sun, 4/12/09, ROHAN DHARESH <rohandharesh@ yahoo.co. in> wrote: From: ROHAN DHARESH <rohandharesh@ yahoo.co. in> Subject: Re: [bm] Re: About coming Election very very Important To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 6:36 PM Pushpendra, We all know that it is an ideal situation. That can't happen atleast for now. So, what is the other choice? 49-O is the other option. Where is the question of giving option to voters for a good person? Is that there today? Yes, if people have a good choice, they will not opt for 49-O. But as of now, there is no choice at all. --- On Sun, 12/4/09, pushpendra sharma <pushp_4...@yahoo. com> wrote: From: pushpendra sharma <pushp_4...@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [bm] Re: About coming Election very very Important To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 1:57 PM dear rohan my point oh view is very clear instead of givinfg that option give voters suitable candidates so that there will be no question of negative voting and we r her for the same goal giving voters suitable candidates. we together can bring the changes --- On Sun, 4/12/09, ROHAN DHARESH <rohandharesh@ yahoo.co. in> wrote: From: ROHAN DHARESH <rohandharesh@ yahoo.co. in> Subject: Re: [bm] Re: About coming Election very very Important To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 1:45 PM Pushpendra, Your argument is wrong. Voting nobody is also a choice. Its no way defeating democracy because democracy is also a choice. 49-O helps in attracting non-voters to the booth, because all the while they give the excuse that all candidates are bad. Because all candidates are bad, many don't vote and their votes are cast by dummies. Voting nobody is also a choice, an informed choice. Its a healthy part of a democracy. Voting nobody does not amount to not voting. By voting nobody, you have made your stand very clear that none of the candidates are fit to rule. What better way of displaying your anger? Regards, Rohan --- On Sun, 12/4/09, pushpendra sharma <pushp_4...@yahoo. com> wrote: From: pushpendra sharma <pushp_4...@yahoo. com> Subject: Re: [bm] Re: About coming Election very very Important To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, 12 April, 2009, 12:50 PM dear manish i fully agree with u. we here to provide solution and chosing "none of above" is not a solution because1)it gives very exuse for people who does not vote 2)its defeat of democracy, so we should provide voters with valid option to vote voting no one is as gd as not voting that is why we need bm as a political party best of luck we together can bring the changes --- On Sun, 4/12/09, nishant shrivastava <n_sh...@yahoo. co.in> wrote: From: nishant shrivastava <n_sh...@yahoo. co.in> Subject: Re: [bm] Re: About coming Election very very Important To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, April 12, 2009, 12:29 AM The level of cynicism is appalling.. even before knowing who are contesting the election, people want to exercise the "I vote Nobody" option. More than anything else, it reflects on our sad condition that a nation of 1 billion plus, cannot find 543 good people! What do you achieve with this 49-O option? From: Manish Shrotriya <manish_shrotriya@ yahoo.co. in> To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 7:54:03 PM Subject: Re: [bm] Re: About coming Election very very Important Thanks Raj, I got this information from one of my friend who is presiding officer in next election and during his training this fact came to his knowledge and reached to me. And I am sure this is a great beginning as near 70% educated voter don't vote due to a common reason that they don;t find a suitable party or candidate. this is true too. today votes are casted in the name of caste, religion, cash prizes. Even very grass root level people brain wash uneducated people to cast their vote to certain party or candidate. I guess with in Bhumi resource full people should come together and file so many PILs after this and before next election that this option should become anonymous and should be available on EVMs. Regards Manish From: Raj <raj_raajesh@ yahoo.com> To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Friday, 10 April, 2009 1:28:38 PM Subject: [bm] Re: About coming Election very very Important Hello Dear Yogi / Manish and all the the members ! Election Commission of India introduced an option of "Don't like any candidate? You can still vote" If you want to vote but don't wish to support any candidate of your area, you have a way out. Conduct of Elections Rules, 1961, has a provision that offers hope for such voters. As per Rule 49-O, when a valid voter decides not to cast his vote, but decides to record this fact, he or she can go the presiding officer and record this. Such a voter should go to the presiding officer, shall show a proof that he is a valid voter and will be allowed to record his vote. For such voters, the Electronic Voting Machine has to be switched off and the said voter's vote will be recorded as 'nil'. According to sources in the ECI, such votes can be counted as well. Such a voter has to enter this fact in a specially-designed Form-17-A and the voter's signature or thumb impression will be taken. Such voters' finger will be marked by indelible ink as well. But, in 2004, when the ECI had suggested many electoral reforms, there was a suggestion that there should be a provision if any voter does not find any of the contesting candidates suitable. In fact, the problem with the 49-O is that the identity of such voter is revealed since his details are maintained separately. Therefore, the ECI, while appearing in the Supreme Court a few years back on a Public Interest Litigation, had suggested that such an option should be made on the EVMs that any voter who does not want to vote for any contestant can record its negative vote without disclosing identity. Reference - http://indiatoday. intoday.in/ election2009/ index.php? option=com_ content&task= view&id=36127& issueid=& sectionid= 90&Itemid= 1&secid=0 THIS IS A BEGINNING FRIENDS. Regards Raj --- In bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com, "mail.ryogi" <mail.ryogi@ ...> wrote: > > Hi Manish > > In my knowledge no such option exists. If you don't vote any candidate, your > vote is not accounted for anything. > > If know any real such procedure kindly share the related documents as > reference. > > Regards > Yogi > > > In bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com, Manish Shrotriya <manish_shrotriya@ > > wrote: > > > > All BUM Memebers, > > > > Kindly be advised that in coming election, You have got one additional > > option if you don't like any candidate then you don't have to choose any of > > them. You can write there I don't want to vote any of them. This will be > > counted and later be analyzed. At least this tells us in coming year we may > > get an option for negative voting. > > > > regards > > Manish > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Invite them now. >From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click here.
