Mr.Mayank Shukla, This is precisely the reason, why I hate to post anything in message boards. Sadly people tend to react emotionally and make a personal attack rather than stopping and thinking for a quick while before jumping up and down and firing at other people.
You have no right of falsely accusing me of not having respect for my nation, nor can you accuse me of not knowing anything.Nowhere did I ever state AP is not a part of India, read my post very carefully, infact I did say its a slight diff condition than J&K cos AP is completely controlled and governed by India, whereas J&K is not.You have to realize one thing, Just because, entire world does silently agree with India on AP, it does not make it not disputed. Any differences between two concerned parties (in this case two countries), is a dispute. Until and unless the two concerned parties comes to a legal and binding agreement, the dispute is not resolved (E.g-see Berlin wall- dispute resolved). So instead of clearing my mind, you have to clear your mind and accept the fact, even though, India is more than 100% right in its stance and will have to force China to accept the same.I know about Shri Atal Jee disproving, you dont need to show me, and it proves nothing here!Where in my entire post did I call Google saint. Again, I have to point to jumping to conclusions and reacting emotionally than thinking rationally!! I simple mentioned Google is a for profit independent company and its maps are not officially recognized!!Again I never said they are not responsible for their contents. Jeez!! 23 countries have forced Google to change their maps and google had to do it. Why Indian government is not asking same ????? If the above is true, then as you say India should take steps, but do you have any proof, if not then there is no way you can claim this. But then again I go back to my original statement- GOOGLE MAPS IS NOT OFFICIAL!!!!!!!!! Why Cina wants India`s AP ????? Again immaterial to this debate- we all know it wants AP and we all agree AP is India's territory! Why did Google favored China not India ??? - China build "Great firewall of china" which blocks google and even Yahoo from tiem to time. India do not have any such defence that can protect its culture. Now I request BUM members to File and application to Google`s Office in California seeking chagnes. Also warn Google in angree tone from the side of people and republic of India for disturbing its soverignity. Yet another irrational point to this debate. In Addition, you did not even answer your own question!! Requesting BUM members to file an application-- yes ok, if it really means that much to you, but the second part shows your lack of judgement, and maintaining cool head. Angree (its angry by the way, among other correction- cheap shot, irrelevant to this debate, I know, but couldn't resist, especially after you took a pot shot and accused me!)I am under no trap from China (what in the world are you talking about here??), I am a free person of free thinking and in this democratic country, I can think and do whatever I like as long as it is legal! Maybe they need to publicize the right message to you, to maintain a calm head and be rational in yuor thinking instead of jumping up and down emotionally and throwing insults on other people (yes I do consider, you first and very last statement as insult)/You dont have any right to forgive me, I have done nothing! infact, I should be the one to forgive you for acting irrationally and accusing me! But I won't I dont believe in such a thing where the agenda of a person is to only attack another person for no rhyme or reason, and not focus on the actual discussion that is being taken. So buzz off and dont write back unless you have a proper discussion, instead of attacking people and calling names (yes I am doing it here, and its in retaliation to what you called me. Stop it and I will back off too!)Lastly here is another parting cheap shot! If you can't get the spelling right, then use a dictionary when you type or at the very least turn on the spell check. Don't parlay your ignorance by typing erroneously! And my name is Shivakumar, please try and get it right like I did your. Its not too tough, you can see it in my mail if and when you reply with proper sense! A simple check would do, because you can do it, you are not that busy man to not even be able to afford an additional minute to get the name and spelling right!Have fun and debate constructively or just dont debate at all! Cool heads and rational thinking can lead to intresting discussions! Emotional responses will just lead to name calling like carried out now! Regards, Shiva. Once all struggles are grasped, miracles are possible. Shivakumar Shankar, --- On Fri, 1/8/10, mayank shukla <[email protected]> wrote: From: mayank shukla <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [bm] google cheats india To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Date: Friday, January 8, 2010, 5:35 AM Mr Shiv Kumar, Neither u have respect for ur nation nor u know any thing Arunachal Pradesh is integral part of India its not a state like Kashmir which involved later in India. So clear your mind " no part of AP or any other part of Union of India is disputed other then Kasmir. In Kashmir also there are 226 dispute points rest is kashmir of india and it is yet called as " PoK" and " CoK"." Definition standards of word "occupied" in DSG is same as in UNO and it means what it means in english i.e "cover it willfully with or without permission". 3 Times China tried to call AP their terrotory, Atal Jee also disproved them. Read the link Below :- http://www.archives ofrss.org/ index.php? option=com_ prastav&Itemid=38 How can u call google a saint of all ???? See and read google`s terms and Condition words are " map and terrain data, business listings, reviews, traffic, and other related information provided by Google, its licensors, and its users (the "Content")." http://maps. google.com/ help/terms_ maps_earth. html These clearly means that they own the responsibilities of content. 23 countries have forced google to change their maps and google had to do it. Why Indian government is not asking same ????? Why Cina wants India`s AP ?????China is trying to make AP a terrotory of dispute just to get it in theri area. - AP has rare herbs and has Nuclear mines.- It has huge resource of Hot Spring waters which gives cold access to molten lava where China wants to setup labs with India to do research on Geo thermal energy as Oil is avilable for 40 more years on earth. - It has 2nd largest temple of Buddhist after first in Tibet.- Hilly reagons give huge wind current for wind energy.- For past 50 years AP`s main source is tourism. Why did Google favored China not India ??? - China build "Great firewall of china" which blocks google and even Yahoo from tiem to time.http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Internet_ censorship_ in_the_People's_Republic_of_ China India do not have any such defence that can protect its culture. Now I request BUM members to File and application to Google`s Office in California seeking chagnes. Also warn Google in angree tone from the side of people and republic of India for disturbing its soverignity. I also request higer members to publicise the right message so that more youths like Shiv Kumar do not come in this trap of China. At the end Shiv Kumar Jee I am feeling you were victome of china`s trap so I forgive you but would suggest you that no one will go against Google as google owns internet as most of the writers get their pay by Adsense of Google. Regards,Mayank On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:57 PM, Shiva kumar <calibergemini@ yahoo.com> wrote: I have been following this chain for a long while now, but I thought its high time, I chimed in. First off, take a deep breath and relax. No one recognizes Google maps as the official maps in the world. Also, the one common global maps by Google is maps.google. com. Have a look in that and you will notice Arunachal Pradesh listed as a disputed territory, (which is what it currently is even if India does rightly claim, it to be a part of her country. There has to be a complete global agreement for it not to be called a disputed territory). We have to at this point recognize Arunachal Pradesh as disputed, which is somewhat like J7K, except in the case of J&K, situation is more worse, with the other country controlling a part of that state. Additionally, as I stated before, Google maps is not the official, take it more as a guidance for what it is and drop this issue for now. I am sure the foreign office will look at the matter of how to address issues w.r.t Arunachal Pradesh. Regards, Shiva. --- On Mon, 1/4/10, Mayank Walia <waitnwatch90@ yahoo.com> wrote: From: Mayank Walia <waitnwatch90@ yahoo.com> Subject: [bm] google cheats india To: bharatudaymission@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, January 4, 2010, 4:53 AM Google's recent activity surely indicates poor indian foreign policy,which indicates that we scare of china.Thats why all around its all these activities our politicians only say few things to shut media's mouth.It is simmiliar like if we close our eyes even when police rapes any women in front of our eyes.Do we afraid of china?though he is powerfull than us then what?we can't bare all these things, why don't india take strong action at world level?Why we all are shut up after few days wandering of media persons? I think we should raise this topic in a cyber way, we should send mails to all our friends in social networking groups.And media persons should be involved in it. -- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful.
