On May 7, 2008, at 5:00 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Christiaan Hofman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On 7 May 2008, at 10:33 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >> >>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >>> James Howison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> On May 6, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 6, 2008, at 6:17 PM, James Howison wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I usually use Copy as RIS to exchange references with the poor >>>>>> sods >>>>>> using Endnote. However recently (I think) I've noticed that >>>>>> BibDesk >>>>>> doesn't include the TY (type) of reference, which confuses >>>>>> Endnote no >>>>>> end. I'm pretty sure that RIS should always have that filled >>>>>> out: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://www.refman.com/support/risformat_tags_01.asp >>>>> >>>>> You are absolutely right, and I just checked in a fix for it; it's >>>>> been broken for several months. I only tested it with your >>>>> example, >>>>> so more testing is welcome. Incidentally, I fixed another random >>>>> bug >>>>> in RIS export that's been around since March 2006, due to a change >>>>> to >>>>> support PubMed's bastard RIS. Apparently RIS doesn't get a lot of >>>>> use... >>>> >>>> Hi, using today's daily I tried this with my correspondent. I see >>>> that TY is now included but he still had issues. We both realize >>>> that >>>> RIS is poorly defined, and it might be an Endnote importing thing. >>> >>> RIS at least has a published spec; unfortunately, BibDesk is doing a >>> crappy job exporting it. I never noticed this because BibDesk can >>> read >>> its own output back in (and I never tried Endnote). >>> >>> Basically the problem is that BibDesk has a dictionary mapping RIS >>> tags >>> to BibTeX, so TI = title; T1 = title; T2 = title; and does a reverse >>> dictionary lookup to find that title = (TI, T1, T2), and picks the >>> first >>> one. However, those are actually in random order, so the result >>> varies >>> wildly. >>> >>> What really needs to be done: >>> >>> 1) create a dictionary mapping BibTeX field->RIS tag >> >> Just added this one, so that should be better now. Though I'm not >> sure >> I've done it right. >> >> PubMedTagsForBibTeXFieldNames = { >> Abstract = AB; >> Address = AD; >> Annote = N1; >> Author = AU; >> Booktitle = BT; >> Editor = ED; >> Isbn = SN; >> Journal = JO; >> Keywords = KW; >> Language = LA; >> "Local-Url" = L1; >> Medlineref = UI; >> Pages = PG; >> Title = TI; >> Publisher = PB; >> Status = PS; >> Url = UR; >> Volume = VL; >> Year = PY; >> }; > > I'm not sure either, but that will at least give consistent > results :). > Hopefully someone has the Copious Free Time to check against the spec. > We have a mix of PubMed and RIS in the type dictionaries, > unfortunately, > and that adds some extra confusion.
I'm having a look at the spec (at refman.com) and it seems that there are some slightly different mappings depending on the TY. eg: > Title Primary. Note that the BT tag maps to this field only for > Whole Book and Unpublished Work references. This field can contain > alphanumeric characters; there is no practical length limit to this > field. Meh, re-reading that I'm not sure that it matters. I think that if one always Title = T1 and Booktitle = T2 then we might be ok (although that's assuming that Endnote follows that convention, it doesn't in the sample code, but it might parse it ok). Definitely need to add Number = IS; Month = Y2; Actually the specification for PY is kinda intense: YYYY/MM/DD/other info http://www.refman.com/support/risformat_tags_03.asp Not even sure if Endnote users it. I think the examples my colleague provided suggest that Year = Y1; Month = Y2 is a better plan. btw, do you guys think that all the output formats should be standardized as templates? I find it a bit confusing, for example, that you get BibTeX or RIS in the Save As, some different ones in Export and different set still in the Copy As context menu. --J ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by the 2008 JavaOne(SM) Conference Don't miss this year's exciting event. There's still time to save $100. Use priority code J8TL2D2. http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;198757673;13503038;p?http://java.sun.com/javaone _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list Bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
