On 26 Jan 2009, at 6:57 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
Hi Christiaan,
sorry for my amateur ideas. Some questions: given that Skim would
overwrite any openmeta-tags when saving in context of making
annotations etc. on papers managed by BibDesk, would it be possible
to re-write those tags back AFTER Skim did its work? Would that call
for BibDesk to do this or could this be done by Skim/started by Skim
or linked to the paper's folder one (and BibDesk) uses?
I mean are steps like this: look for paper in BibDesk (previously
applying openmeta-tags based on keywords in Bibdesk to the linked
file/pdf), open it with Skim, annotate it, save it and starting some
(script-)action to look for the keywords in Bibdesk and re-apply them?
Thanks a bunch.
Rolf
I don't really understand your question. What do you mean by "those
tags"?
Remember that currently Skim does not handle and mess with open meta
tags. If Bibdesk would handle the tags, it would read/write them
immediately, it would not manage them in its own data model. Similar
to the way Finder labels are currently handled.
This is the real difference between Skim and BibDesk, because if Skim
would handle tags, it would be part of its data mode rather than edit
them immediately on the filel (because that's how a document based app
should behave). In other words, BibDesk manages /references/ to the
files, while Skim manages the /data/ for the files.
Christiaan
Am 26.01.2009 um 16:15 schrieb Christiaan Hofman:
Moving this to the bibdesk list from the Skim list.
On 25 Jan 2009, at 5:54 PM, Rolf Schmolling wrote:
Hi, I support this idea! What about converting the keywords one
applies to Bibdesk-items into openmeta-tags (I mean in addition)
Thanks, Rolf
I'd indeed say this is more a feature for a manager like BibDesk
than for Skim, given the problems I sketched on the Skim list. But
I'm not sure what support one would like in BibDesk. Certainly no
automatic conversion to/from bibtex fields. But it makes sense to
add support in AppleScript for OpenMeta tags. Then the user can do
whatever he or she likes, such as copying tags to keywords or
keywords to tags, possibly in a script hook to automate it. The
tags could also be displayed in the notes view below the Skim notes.
Christiaan
Am 25.01.2009 um 16:53 schrieb Rhet Turnbull:
The developers behind Yep & Leap (two excellent apps for tagging/
organzing PDFs and other files) have released an open source
tagging framework for Mac based on extended attributes called
Open Meta. I believe this solves many of the problems inherent
in the various tagging applications on the Mac. As a heavy user
of both Yep and Skim, I would *love* to see Skim add integrated
support for Open Meta tags. The ability to view tags as well as
modify them in Skim would be helpful. This could be accomplished
with applescripts from Skim but an integrated approach would be
much nicer and the fact that they use extended attributes should
play nicely with Skim's architecture. The code is available and
is released under Apache license. Any thoughts?
Yep & Leap: http://www.yepthat.com/
Open Meta code: http://code.google.com/p/openmeta/
Open Meta manifesto: OpenMeta.pdf
Cheers,
Rhet
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