On Apr 4, 2013, at 19:53, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>
> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 19:12, Christiaan Hofman <cmhof...@gmail.com>
> ha scritto:
>
>>
>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 13:40, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>>
>>> You almost got it right, almost
>>> I don't like my HTML file, but I don't know how to edit the file itself.
>>> Which field should I use to paste my Dropbox-generated link? And what is
>>> the syntax to edit the HTML file in order to get an appropriate output?
>>>
>>
>> You are still confusing different things. the problem is that what you say
>> you want to get, or what you have, is not consistent with the concrete
>> questions you ask. So what do you have, and what do you want to get? So
>> what's in your data, what linked files, linked URLs, and (URL) fields? And
>> what do you want in the HTML output? Is the information you want in there
>> available in your data? Do you know about templates, have you read the Wiki
>> and tried to look at sample templates?
>>
>> Christiaan
>
> Dear Christiaan. I appreciate so much your being straightforward, but I still
> have to get used to it. So please try and understand, since I'd try to be
> extremely patient and cooperative if I had to explain to you a current of
> lesion during STEMI and PCI or the specific prognosis of the takotsubo
> syndrome
>
the problem is that you are implicitly making assumptions about the way
templates are generated and the structure of the data, which are not correct,
and then ask questions about the result of that assumption. Instead, you should
say what you have and what you want to get, not what you assume you need in the
intermediate to get what you want.
> I have a database
> I have a publication record
> This record has fields
> I am looking for a field where to paste
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf, but actually I don't know
> if such one exists
Here you make the assumption that you can add a field, and put something in
there, and somehow the content of that field turns up in the generated HTML.
That assumption is wrong. So you are *not* looking for such a field.
> I created a new field in a single publication record and called it
> Dropbox-Url and pasted the link
That does not work because your assumption that arbitrary fields turn up in the
generated HTML is wrong.
> I looked at templates
> I don't know how to sufficiently edit templates
> I tried to build a template with the template editor as a .txt file and used
> for export
> Formatting was terrible, but I actually got my link to appear
> I'd like to get something like this which comes with the default html template
> Mokhles:2012aa
> The risk of new onset heart failure associated with dopamine agonist use in
> Parkinson's disease
> M. M. Mokhles and G. Trifirò and J. P. Dieleman and M. D. Haag and E. M. van
> Soest and K. M. C. Verhamme and G. Mazzaglia and R. Herings and C. d. Luise
> and D. Ross and G. Brusselle and A. Colao and W. Haverkamp and R. Schade and
> G. v. Camp and R. Zanettini and M. C. J. M. Sturkenboom
> Pharmacol Res 65 358-64 (2012)
> /Users/lalla/Dropbox/Papers/Mokhles/2012.nbib
>
> But instead of /Users/lalla/Dropbox/Papers/mypaper
> id like
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf
Again, one question is: is this information available somewhere in your
publication items? If it is not, it will never turn up in the template. So you
should somehow add it.
> maybe some automation to retrieve the cloud link for any file stored in the
> local Dropbox folder would be useful IMHO
Automation of setting this information will not and should not be done in any
default way. This could be done using AppleScript, possibly through script
hooks.
> I noticed that I don't know how to create a field common to the entire
> database
>
> Now, I am begging all of you to consider my perspective instead of constantly
> underscoring my computer science inconsistency.
Its not about computer science. It's about your assumptions on how they work.
That makes it really confusing, because it makes it unclear what you really
want. The answer to "what field to use" depends on why you want this field and
what you want to do with it. And actually you probably don't even want a field,
but something else. But that is not what you asked.
> If my description is not enough, I will give up.
> I appreciate your cooperation
> Daniele Pontillo, MD
>
So here is what I now think you want (rather than what you think you want):
1. You have items with linked files (not fields!) located in your local Dropbox.
2. You want to generate HTML from templates, possibly the default HTML template.
3. The generated template should contain *remote URLs* to your remote Dropbox,
associated to those linked files.
Is that correct?
Now to get this you need at least two things:
1. Those remote URLs should be added to the item data.
2. The template should actually use those remote URLs (wherever they end up) in
the generated text.
The point is that as it is now, the default HTML template will not do 2 for
you, so you need to edit the template (or use a custom template). Moreover,
there are different ways you can do 1, which may or may not involve a field,
and it depends on what you do in 2.
If all this is correct, I think the best solution is to put the remote URLs in
the linked URLs (so not in a field, but a URL that turns up in the side panes.)
Those linked URLs should also turn up in the template, but I just noticed that
there is an error in the default HTML template. To fix that, you should edit
the htmlItemExportTemplate.html file (see the Template prefs) using a plain
text editor, and add $ before the word remoteURLs (twice).
An alternative is to use a field. But then you have to edit the template a bit
more (could be in the same item template file). For instance, if you put the
corresponding remote URL in the field "Url", then you could add the following
line:
<span class="File"><a
href="<$urls.Url.absoluteString/>"><$urls.Url.absoluteString/></a></span><br />
or you could put this line instead of the 3 lines from <$localFiles> to
</$localFiles>.
Then the next question could be how to automate the synchronization of the
linked local files with the corresponding remote URLs in your data. For this,
you should use AppleScript. What this AppleScript looks like depends on whether
you want to synchronize manually (say, generate the remote URLs in all selected
items). Or whether you want to have this done automatically whenever you add a
new linked file, in which case you should use a script hook. Moreover what the
AppleScript looks like depends on the choices you make above (basically,
whether you want to put the remote URL in the linked URLs, or in the Url field.)
Christiaan
>
>>
>>> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 13:05, Fischlin Andreas
>>> <andreas.fisch...@env.ethz.ch> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> It seems you do not like the html file. Then edit the template you use
>>>> accordingly. This has, AFAI can understand you, nothing to do with a field
>>>> of your publication record in BibDesk nor with Dropbox.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andreas
>>>>
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>>>> On 04/04/2013, at 12:51 , Daniele Pontillo wrote:
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>>>>
>>>> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 12:45, Christiaan Hofman
>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com<mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:26, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am so sorry I cannot make myself understood. I'll try harder, step by
>>>> step.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. hahah, I have a publication
>>>> 2. I have a pdf file I want to link to the publication
>>>> 3. the pdf is in my dropbox folder
>>>>
>>>> Everything clear till now, OK?
>>>>
>>>> When I export my database to a HTML file take a look at what I get
>>>> <link.jpg>
>>>>
>>>> Well, I guess you have a linked file to your local dropbox folder.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. I don't need to display the link to my local folder (/Users/lalla/)
>>>> 2. I want to find in my publication the APPROPRIATE FIELD to paste the
>>>> Dropbox server-generated link instead of getting the local file link
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The appropriate field is the field where you put the URL you're talking
>>>> about. If you did not put a URL in a field, then there is no appropriate
>>>> field.
>>>>
>>>> Christiaan
>>>>
>>>> Dear Christiaan, I guess that this Italian cardiologist is really too
>>>> dumb as for computer science. But listen carefully:
>>>> please give me the name of the field where I can place the link and that
>>>> would be displayed in an HTML output
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 12:15, Christiaan Hofman
>>>> <cmhof...@gmail.com<mailto:cmhof...@gmail.com>> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:47, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello again everybody.
>>>> Since there are some issues in identifuing the field in which local pdfs
>>>> are stored (in order to find and replace the url) I will ask another
>>>> question
>>>> I linked my publication to the file on the dropbox server
>>>> (https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf) placing it in the
>>>> remote-url field.
>>>> What syntax should I use and which file should I edit to get the
>>>> remote-url link instead of the local file link displayed on the exported
>>>> HTML file ?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>> You're confusing again. Are you talking about linked files, linked remote
>>>> URLs, or a field called "Remote-Url"?
>>>>
>>>> Christiaan
>>>>
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