Since you seem to be in a mood to argue, I'll bite. ;-)

Please explain exactly why you state, " nor is it ideal,"

In other words, in your opinion, what is less than ideal about using a
skinny tube in a fat tire?

On Oct 13, 7:00 pm, "tarik saleh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow. Ok. I think this is about the biggest overstatements I have seen.
> Lucky? Come on.
>
>  I have run road tubes in cross tires for years and years with no problems.
> They get a little thinner sure, nor is it ideal, but really,  you can blow
> up an unconstrained road tube to 4" in diameter and it won't pop or tear.
> The valve is a stress riser, but that is why there is a lot of extra
> material there.  Michelin tubes are probably some of the nicest tubes
> around, as well. Still talced and seamless.
>
> Buy the right size when you are getting new tubes, but use what you got and
> don't worry about it, unless you are running 29erx2.3 tires. Up to 35mm or
> so, eh, I don't think it is a "very bad idea".
>
> Later
>
> Tarik
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:50 PM, landotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Lucky indeed. That's why I do the opposite and "size up" on tubes, as
> > they run small. The bikes that run 30mm and 32mm tires get "35mm"
> > tubes which pretty much don't have to stretch any at all to fit the
> > tire carcass. They aren't bunched up in there either. ;-) Utterly
> > reliable.
>
> > On Oct 13, 9:24 am, Peter Jon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > You've been a bit lucky. It depends on the tube, and it depends on how
> > > accurately the tube manufacturer labels the tubes for sizing. Where
> > > you run into trouble is at the valve. The valve acts as a stress riser
> > > because the rubber at the valve has to stretch more than other parts
> > > of the tube.
>
> > > On Oct 13, 7:30 am, bullcitybiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Famous wrench Jim Langely recommends using tubes one-size smaller to
> > > > make it easier to change a tire. I picked
> > > > up his tip a couple of years ago and have had good success: no
> > > > increase in flats, and when I do flat, I can change
> > > > the tube with no levers. I run 18/23 tubes in my Conti 25s and 28s.
>
> > > > Branson
>
> > > >http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/flattiretwo.htm
>
> > > > On Oct 12, 6:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > > > > > It's just a list of other tubes that Michelin makes. Think of it as
> > a
> > > > > > bit of advertising. It's a very bad idea to use inner tubes
> > designed
> > > > > > for skinny tires in fat tires. Use those tubes in the tire sizes
> > > > > > they're rated for; 18mm to 23mm.
>
> > > > > I agree that it's not a good idea in the long term. But I've found
> > that
> > > > > carrying one spare which is skinny often makes it easier to change a
> > tube
> > > > > beside the road, especially in difficult conditions (rain, high heat,
> > > > > etc.). I seem to be less likely to pinch the tube when it's on the
> > small
> > > > > side (maybe one size) for the tire.
>
> > > > > Of course you're supposed to swap out the skinny tube for one of the
> > right
> > > > > size when you've stopped for the night. Something I sometimes even
> > > > > remember to do.
>
> --
> Tarik Saleh
> tas at tariksaleh dot com
> in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com
> all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com
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