On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 8:33 AM, Peter Jon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> Since you seem to be in a mood to argue, I'll bite. ;-)
>
> Please explain exactly why you state, " nor is it ideal,"
>
> In other words, in your opinion, what is less than ideal about using a
> skinny tube in a fat tire?
>
> On Oct 13, 7:00 pm, "tarik saleh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wow. Ok. I think this is about the biggest overstatements I have seen.
> > Lucky? Come on.
> >
> >  I have run road tubes in cross tires for years and years with no
> problems.
> > They get a little thinner sure, nor is it ideal, but really,  you can
> blow
> > up an unconstrained road tube to 4" in diameter and it won't pop or tear.
> > The valve is a stress riser, but that is why there is a lot of extra
> > material there.  Michelin tubes are probably some of the nicest tubes
> > around, as well. Still talced and seamless.
> >
> > Buy the right size when you are getting new tubes, but use what you got
> and
> > don't worry about it, unless you are running 29erx2.3 tires. Up to 35mm
> or
> > so, eh, I don't think it is a "very bad idea".
> >
> > Later
> >
> > Tarik
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 2:50 PM, landotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Lucky indeed. That's why I do the opposite and "size up" on tubes, as
> > > they run small. The bikes that run 30mm and 32mm tires get "35mm"
> > > tubes which pretty much don't have to stretch any at all to fit the
> > > tire carcass. They aren't bunched up in there either. ;-) Utterly
> > > reliable.
> >
> > > On Oct 13, 9:24 am, Peter Jon White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > You've been a bit lucky. It depends on the tube, and it depends on
> how
> > > > accurately the tube manufacturer labels the tubes for sizing. Where
> > > > you run into trouble is at the valve. The valve acts as a stress
> riser
> > > > because the rubber at the valve has to stretch more than other parts
> > > > of the tube.
> >
> > > > On Oct 13, 7:30 am, bullcitybiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > > > Famous wrench Jim Langely recommends using tubes one-size smaller
> to
> > > > > make it easier to change a tire. I picked
> > > > > up his tip a couple of years ago and have had good success: no
> > > > > increase in flats, and when I do flat, I can change
> > > > > the tube with no levers. I run 18/23 tubes in my Conti 25s and 28s.
> >
> > > > > Branson
> >
> > > > >http://www.jimlangley.net/wrench/flattiretwo.htm
> >
> > > > > On Oct 12, 6:48 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > It's just a list of other tubes that Michelin makes. Think of
> it as
> > > a
> > > > > > > bit of advertising. It's a very bad idea to use inner tubes
> > > designed
> > > > > > > for skinny tires in fat tires. Use those tubes in the tire
> sizes
> > > > > > > they're rated for; 18mm to 23mm.
> >
> > > > > > I agree that it's not a good idea in the long term. But I've
> found
> > > that
> > > > > > carrying one spare which is skinny often makes it easier to
> change a
> > > tube
> > > > > > beside the road, especially in difficult conditions (rain, high
> heat,
> > > > > > etc.). I seem to be less likely to pinch the tube when it's on
> the
> > > small
> > > > > > side (maybe one size) for the tire.
> >
> > > > > > Of course you're supposed to swap out the skinny tube for one of
> the
> > > right
> > > > > > size when you've stopped for the night. Something I sometimes
> even
> > > > > > remember to do.
> >
> > --
> > Tarik Saleh
> > tas at tariksaleh dot com
> > in los alamos, po box 208, 87544http://tariksaleh.com
> > all sorts of bikes blog:http://tsaleh.blogspot.com
> >
>


-- 
Tarik Saleh
tas at tariksaleh dot com
in los alamos, po box 208, 87544
http://tariksaleh.com
all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com

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