Distance isn't necessarily a good proxy for easier/faster/more convenient for transit vs bike. Ease and convenience are pretty relative and subjective terms, but biking is probably faster than transit for a lot of people. I live 8.5 miles away from my work (Dempsey/Cottage Grove Rd to Todd Dr./Frontage Rd.) and have a bus stop right outside my front door and relatively close to my workplace. Google maps estimates my time by bike to be 43 minutes (real world time for me is ~35 minutes during most of the year and closer to 45 minutes in the winter). Google puts my trip by bus at 1:04 minutes. I actually need to leave by 6:51 in order to get to work by 8:00, so there's also that wait time as compared to a bike. If I worked at UW Hospital it would take me 1:05 by bus vs. 39 minutes by bike. It'd be cool if someone could do a visualization of trip times for transit vs. bike in Madison and I bet a lot of people would be surprised at how quick biking is, especially when compared to transit.
If you live and work in Madison, it's hard to beat a bike to get you where you need to be. On Fri Feb 13 2015 at 2:43:46 PM Robbie Webber <[email protected]> wrote: > I was actually sort of impressed that so many people mentioned the need > for improved and more bike parking (and showers, locker rooms, etc.) What > that shows, along with the very high mode split among people making > > $55,000, is that people who likely have a transportation choice are opting > to bike. We have excellent facilities as far as the average American city > or workplace goes. I wonder how many other workplaces with over 15,000 > employees and 40,000+ other daily commuters have parking as good as ours. > > But I was also very surprised that biking was so far ahead of transit. > Obviously, that's for good weather. Do people in that income category live > significantly closer so that biking is easier/faster/more convenient than > bus? > > And the attitudes and mode splits at the Hospital just seemed to be so > radically different. Some of it is surely due to scheduling, but it can't > all be that. > > Robbie Webber > Transportation Policy Analyst > 608-263-9984 (o) > 608-225-0002 (c) > [email protected] > All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of > my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. > > On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:58 PM, STRAWSER, Charles <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> “Also mentioned is better/more bike parking” >> >> >> >> Yep. Working on that. And we passed a milestone in fall 2014 – we now >> have more free bike parking spaces on campus than we spaces for cars. >> >> Roughly 13,100 bike parking spaces vs about 13,000 car spaces. >> >> >> >> And we have already replaced all but about 600 of the old, awful bike >> racks on campus (you know, the wheelbenders, and the “wave” racks that are >> so popular with architects because they look pretty when empty). >> >> >> >> Most dorms now have 1 bike parking space for every 2 residents (Sellery >> and Witte are notable exceptions, but there’s a $40 million project there >> that should improve bike parking there). >> >> >> >> And we’re not done yet. Our goal is 14,500 spaces that all meet campus >> standards by 2017. >> >> And we are on track to do that. >> >> >> >> I’ve started working on UW-Madison’s reapplication to League of American >> Bicyclists for a better Bicycle Friendly University status (we were named >> silver in 2011), and honestly, more and better bike parking is the main >> obstacle to gold (or perhaps even platinum) status, imo. >> >> >> >> But I’d welcome your comments here , or directly to me, about that. >> >> Thanks, >> >> chuck >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of >> *Robbie >> Webber >> *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2015 1:27 PM >> *To:* Bikies >> *Subject:* [Bikies] Survey of UW transportation issues >> >> >> >> Very interesting responses. There are actually two documents: one >> <http://transportation.wisc.edu/files/SurveyReports/2014SurveyReportMain.pdf> >> is just the percentages of people that answered questions in a certain way, >> and the appendices >> <http://transportation.wisc.edu/files/SurveyReports/2014SurveyReportAppendices.pdf> >> include comments verbatim. >> >> >> >> I found several things especially interesting. >> >> >> >> Biking to campus is the second highest mode after driving alone for >> faculty and staff making over $55,000/yr >> >> >> >> The comments section was especially interesting and had a number of >> strong themes: >> >> - Faculty/staff that drive part way into the city and then either >> bike or take the bus, >> - Faculty/staff that love the bus pass program, >> - Faculty/staff complaining about the cost of parking on campus, >> - Hospital employees overwhelmingly complained about parking, but >> many more issues than just the cost, although that was also the top >> complaint. Schedules or the bus and work not matching are significant >> problems. >> - Hospital employees are much more outright hostile to UW Parking and >> Transportation Services than other groups. Many m ore comments that said, >> "We shouldn't have to pay to come to work." >> - Faculty/staff that would like better transit options to allow them >> to drive less. These include longer hours of service/more frequency, >> service to areas that don't have it now, and more direct connections to >> campus from some areas. Also mentioned is better/more bike parking and >> showers. >> - Students complaining about overcrowded buses. Faculty/staff too, >> but the #80 seems to be the biggest problem. >> - Very few faculty, staff, or students use Monona Transit. More UW >> Hospital employees use Monona Transit. >> >> I have a bit more sympathy for the hospital employees that work off >> hours, have to go to multiple locations of UW Clinics, or are "on call," so >> may not be able to plan travel easily. >> >> >> >> But there also seem to be a significant number of people in both >> professional categories (I'm leaving out students) who need to be a little >> more creative about using more than one mode to get to work. Except for >> maybe living somewhere car-dependent (which is a different subject), there >> is nothing wrong with driving in from your home in the 'burbs or farther >> reaches of Madison, parking for free on the street, and then jumping on the >> bus or your bike for the rest of the journey. Many people have obviously >> figured that out, but many more just can't wrap their head around the idea >> that the journey to work can involve more than one mode. >> >> >> >> >> Robbie Webber >> Transportation Policy Analyst >> 608-263-9984 (o) >> >> 608-225-0002 (c) >> >> [email protected] >> >> All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of >> my employer or any other group with which I am affiliated. >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >
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