I feel like I read an analysis somewhere that use of helmets by pedestrians and MV occupants would have as great/greater an impact on preventing TBI as/than it does for cyclists.
Maybe I made it up or maybe the analysis was flawed, but it seems like a viable question. If helmets could help prevent some injury to pedestrians, should they be mandatory? Why aren't people in motor vehicles required to wear them (like race car drivers). Grant On Fri, Feb 20, 2015, 10:57 Brian Mink <[email protected]> wrote: > Why? You mean to tell me that there is no way to have helmet dispensers > at the Kiosks? Seems like all the arguments against are economic > arguments based on all or nothing logic/arguments. Don't see a lot of > creative thinking here. > > Brian Mink > Monona > > Mitchell Nussbaum wrote: > > I (almost) always wear a helmet, so a mandatory helmet law wouldn't > affect me if it were adopted in Wisconsin. But it would probably destroy > bike-sharing in Madison and Milwaukee. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Steven Meiers"<[email protected]> > > To: "Charles' 'STRAWSER"<[email protected]>, > [email protected] > > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 9:10:13 AM > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] CA Proposed Mandatory Helmet Law > > > > I am not going to take a position one way or another on helmet laws but > the Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute has a rebuttal to some of the most > common objections to helmet laws, about 1/3 of the way down the page. You > might find it interesting to read. As an aside this website has everything > you want to know about helmets and more. > > > > http://www.helmets.org/negativs.htm > > > > Steve Meiers > > Safety educator > > (608) 267-1102 > > Box 2986 > > Madison WI 53701 > > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > STRAWSER, Charles > > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 8:53 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] CA Proposed Mandatory Helmet Law > > > > The safety of cyclists on the road is most highly (positively) > correlated with...the number of cyclists on the road. > > See "Safety in Numbers slide on John Pucher's presentation of his > research here: > > http://www.policy.rutgers.edu/faculty/pucher/BikeWalkPublicHealth_April% > 206.pdf > > > > As for Mike Rewey's question: "Why not motorcyclists? Why not > Pedestrians?" > > Well why not CAR DRIVERS? > > > > ""The results [of studies in Australia show] that a ["motoring helmet"] > headband can greatly reduce the severity of an impact to the head [by up > to] 67 percent with the honeycomb cardboard prototype, when compared with > an impact with no headband." > > http://www.copenhagenize.com/2009/10/australian-helmet- > science-for-motorists.html > > > > Here's the CDC on barriers to helmet use (and hence why requiring it > would discourage cycling): > > Barriers to helmet use include cost, the wearability of bicycle helmets, > and a lack of knowledge regarding helmet effectiveness (33). In addition, > some school-age children (i.e., children less than 15 years of age) believe > that wearing a helmet will result in derision by their peers (34). Among > older children and adults, rates for helmet use are influenced by some of > the same demographic factors as rates for seat belt use (e.g., age, > education, income, and marital status) (14,33), and some of the reasons > given for not wearing helmets are similar to those given for not wearing > seat belts (e.g., rider was on a short trip, helmets are uncomfortable, and > negligence) (14). Approaches to overcoming some of these barriers to helmet > use include community-based programs (33) and bicycle helmet legislation, > which may be particularly effective among school-age children (34-37). > http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00036941.htm > > > > I think it's in every individual cyclist's best interest to wear a > helmet and visible clothing (and I do so myself, and require it of my son), > but it's clearly in the best interests of cyclists in aggregate to > eliminate ANY laws that discourage cycling, including helmet laws. Anyone > advocating any laws that would discourage cycling is either uninformed, or > does not really have the best interests of cyclists (in aggregate) at heart. > > > > Now I must go and get the marshmallows to roast on the flames of the > helmet war that is about to ensue. > > chuck > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Bikies [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Michael Rewey > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 3:53 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Bikies] CA Proposed Mandatory Helmet Law > > > > I agree with the Cal Bike Coalition opposition for many reasons. First > it would make the poor > > the most likely violators. Why not motorcyclists? Why not Pedestrians. > > > > Mike Rewey > > > > On 19 Feb 2015 at 15:40, Clayton Griessmeyer wrote: > > > > California Bicycle Coalition is opposing a proposed mandatory bicycle > helmet (and reflective night clothing) law. They say it will make > California´s streets less safe. > > > > They argue: > > > > Bicycling with or without a helmet savesas many as 77 livesfor every > life lost in a crash. Per hour of participation, bicycling isthree times > safer than swimming, and twice as safe as riding in a car. And it´s getting > safer. Since 2000, by rate,the risk of bicycling injury in California has > dropped 45%. > > > > http > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ > > Bikies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org > > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.danenet.org/listinfo.cgi/bikies-danenet.org >
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