Re: Writeable file already in use

[Reindl Harald]

and to finish that topic:

in days of zram (it's in the mainline kernel for a long time - https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/blockdev/zram.txt) when you think you need some swap for whatever reason you use that just because modern hardware has left so many cpu cycles left that it don't need measurable ressources and it#s way faster

Am 05.01.2016 um 19:19 schrieb Reindl Harald:

Am 05.01.2016 um 19:05 schrieb Darcy Kevin (FCA):

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/190398/do-i-need-swap-space-if-i-have-more-than-enough-amount-of-ram

and the answer is clearly NO if you have *enough* RAM
you just have to define the "enough"

which means your workload and your useful buffercache fits in

when a have a machine (in my case only VMs) running over a full month
with a 1 GB swap file and it's not used with a single MB i do NOT need
stackexchange to answer that question

a dedicated authoritative-only namserver and to utilize the ressources a
containered asterisk with hylafax and even a tiny webserver with a
mysqld for the addressbook are doing that with 1.5 GB RAM:

[root@asterisk:~]$ free
               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache
available
Mem:           1,5G        150M        886M         18M        460M    1,3G
Swap:            0B          0B          0B

what do you want to swap out there?

the machine has all blocks of the disks it ever accessed, the software
and the data in it's memory and would not come to the idea swap anything
out anyways

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Am 05.01.2016 um 18:03 schrieb Barry Margolin:

In article <mailman.13.1452009325.73610.bind-us...@lists.isc.org>,
   Alan Clegg <a...@clegg.com> wrote:

On 1/5/16 6:26 AM, Jan-Piet Mens wrote:

This might make you sad if you have lots of zones or large zones.

.. or even just want to look at what was transferred (whitout having
to recurse to a `dig axfr').

I see no reason to omit 'file' (except on a diskless slave ;-)

I ran into one exception to this rule - it seemed that the customer
had security requirements that did not allow "transient data" to be
written to disk.  They had to make sure that if the physical device
was stolen, all of their zone data didn't follow it out the door.

The in-memory copy is likely to end up in the swap partition

a proper dimensioned server has no swap partition at all, at least no
one od the servers i am responsible since 2008 had one and *for sure*
the memory requirement of a authoritative nameserver is pretty clear
to don't need it

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