On 6/5/20, 02:21, "bind-users on behalf of Chuck Aurora"
<bind-users-boun...@lists.isc.org on behalf of c...@nodns4.us> wrote:
On 2020-05-02 14:35, Reindl Harald wrote:
> Am 02.05.20 um 21:31 schrieb Chuck Aurora:
>> On 2020-05-02 13:23, Erich Eckner wrote:
>>> Will there be client-side DoT/DoH support in bind, too? E.g. will my
>>> recursive (or forwarding) resolver be able to resolve upstream dns
>>> via
>>
>> Well, a recursive resolver cannot use DoT/DoH for iterative queries to
>> authoritative NS servers, unless authoritative servers offered
>> DoT/DoH,
>> and I don't think that's likely to happen.
>>
>> Basically by deciding you want DoH/DoT upstream, you also have decided
>> that you want to use forwarders.
>
> says who?
>
>
https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.cira.ca/newsroom/canadian-shield/cira-launches-canadian-shield-provide-free-privacy-and-security-canadians__;!!N14HnBHF!v42jWsqHVYR66-kDn-I36X0gH8si5RaYdK5EtC2sj_oJv97ch7idccKrJ34oSLUxu9D8ZKU$
Thanks for the reply, but FWIW, I don't have a clue what point you
intended to make? I looked at that CIRA page twice, and it is simply
a DoH/DoT forwarder. Absolutely nothing in that release mentions any
change in DNS protocol.
DoH/DoT covers only one hop: the end user to the recursive resolver.
Beyond that one hop is good old-fashioned unencrypted DNS. By using
DoH/DoT, whether in your own stub resolver or in a [future] BIND, you
are using that DoH/DoT server as your forwarder.
>From all the reading I've done, DoT/DoH is about each individual hop. You
>control your hop. Beyond you, it's anonymized anyway as a batch/bunch of
>requests from a recursing resolver. The CIRA service is just inserting
>themselves as the recursing resolver (even if they implement that via an
>"app").
SMTP encryption is the same. You can control your hop; what anybody beyond you
does is out of your control.
Stuart
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