On 02 Feb 2021, at 07:36, Matthijs Mekking <matth...@isc.org> wrote:
> If the PDF is not working for you, perhaps https://bind9.readthedocs.io/ 
> suits you better?

The PDF works fine, and I can search for "dnssec" and "policy" but it is using 
some emdash or similar character for the - in between which makes searching an 
issue (even if I copy the text from the PDF and then search for what.I copied).

>> (This domain has a RRSIG range of 20210122220953 - 20210221230953)
>> I am guessing as soon as I add that DNSSEC-policy I also need to change each 
>> domain record from "auto-dnssec maintain;" to "dnssec-policy default;" or do 
>> I do that after the .state files have been created? (That doesn't sound 
>> right, but best to check).
> 
> I guess with "each domain record" you mean "each zone".

Yes. I still think of them as domains (because they are all domains in my case).

> If you are migrating, don't change it to "dnssec-policy default;". This is a 
> built-in policy that does not match your existing keys.

OK, now I am a bit confused.

In named.conf there is dsnssec-policy alg13-ksk-unlimited-zsk-60day { … 

Then in the zone currently I have:

zone "kreme.com" { type primary; file "kreme.com.signed"; auto-dnssec maintain; 
allow-update { key "rndc-key"; }; }

Are you saying I need to change auto-dnssec maintain; to "dsnssec-policy 13;"?

> I would recommend to first check if the .state files look correct before 
> changing your dnssec-policy (do the keys in your zone match the .state file? 
> Are the states set to OMNIPRESENT? Is the goal set to OMNIPRESENT?

I did this with a domain that does not get email as a test:

#v+
named.conf:
dnssec-policy alg13-ksk-unlimited-zsk-60day {
        keys {
           ksk key-directory lifetime unlimited algorithm 7 2048;
           zsk key-directory lifetime P60D algorithm 7 1024 ;
        };
};

zone "example.com" { type primary; file "example.com.signed"; dnssec-policy 
default; allow-update { key "rndc-key";}; };

; This is the state of key 2611, for mrsbutler.com.
Algorithm: 13
Length: 256
Lifetime: 0
KSK: yes
ZSK: yes
Generated: 20210202134627 (Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021)
Published: 20210202134627 (Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021)
Active: 20210202134627 (Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021)
PublishCDS: 20210203145127 (Wed Feb  3 07:51:27 2021)
DNSKEYChange: 20210202155127 (Tue Feb  2 08:51:27 2021)
ZRRSIGChange: 20210202134627 (Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021)
KRRSIGChange: 20210202155127 (Tue Feb  2 08:51:27 2021)
DSChange: 20210202134627 (Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021)
DNSKEYState: omnipresent
ZRRSIGState: rumoured
KRRSIGState: omnipresent
DSState: hidden
GoalState: omnipresent
#v-

I also have new key and private and state files for the alg 7 KSK and ZSK files 
for the zone I am testing with, and the old files are gone, so I think it 
migrated correctly?

But I guess that is what you meant by it using a single key for KSK and ZSK?

Is there a reason NOT to use default? If I use default can I then eliminiate 
the dnssec-policy alg13-ksk-unlimited-zsk-60day { … } block entirely once the 
new keys and state files are created?

I tried to use `rndc dnssec -checkds published example.com" but it wants a -key 
and doesn't seem to want the name of the .key file, so not sure what the syntax 
is there and the man page on rndc isn't helping. Status, on the other hand:

# rndc dnssec -status example
dnssec-policy: default
current time:  Tue Feb  2 10:01:32 2021

key: 1058 (NSEC3RSASHA1), ZSK
  published:      no
  zone signing:   no

  Key has been removed from the zone
  - goal:           hidden
  - dnskey:         hidden
  - zone rrsig:     unretentive

key: 37515 (NSEC3RSASHA1), KSK
  published:      no
  key signing:    no

  Key has been removed from the zone
  - goal:           hidden
  - dnskey:         hidden
  - ds:             hidden
  - key rrsig:      hidden

key: 2611 (ECDSAP256SHA256), CSK
  published:      yes - since Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021
  key signing:    yes - since Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021
  zone signing:   yes - since Tue Feb  2 06:46:27 2021

  No rollover scheduled
  - goal:           omnipresent
  - dnskey:         omnipresent
  - ds:             hidden
  - zone rrsig:     rumoured
  - key rrsig:      omnipresent

Am I concerned about "No rollover scheduled"? O do noe that the removal of the 
alg 7 from the records is a problem as the registrar still has them listed and 
I do not know what the digest or "Key tag" are to update the record on the 
registrar, so yep, I obviously did something wrong here.

Good thing I am testing.


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