Hi Klaus, 

Thank you so much for your answer but when Bind deletes a key from a
zone, if I remember correctly, there should not be any rrsig still
active, signed previously by the deleted key. Isn't it?. So I assume in
that case, I should be doing it properly but still see these messages. 

Am I wrong Klaus in some statement?. If a ZSK is deleted (I'm not
renewing KSK at the moment) no RRSIG with that key should exist... 

Cheers!

El 2022-01-24 13:08, Klaus Darilion escribió:

> IIRC, Bind needs the key as long as there are signatures in the zone 
> generated by this key. After key deactivation I waited the RRSIG lifetime 
> before deleting them. 
> 
> regards 
> 
> Klaus 
> 
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> BETREFF: Bind 9, dnssec, and .key .private files physical deletion after the 
> key id becomes deleted from zone (the key becomes outdated) 
> 
> Good morning, 
> 
> I have a DNSSEC "bump in wire" server, which uses "inline-signing yes;"  and 
> "auto-dnssec maintain;" for that reason. 
> 
> I do the task of ensuring always are valid keys in the zone with an script 
> that generates them whenever is needed. All fine until here and all working. 
> 
> I have seen, that Bind logs in messages log file sometimes the following 
> error logs : 
> 
> _dns_dnssec_keylistfromrdataset: error reading 
> /xxx/xxx/xxx/xx-domain/named.aaa/aaa.xx.+008+41919.private: file not found_ 
> 
> That "file not found" is due to a rename of ".key" and ".private" files to 
> ".key-OLD" and ".private-OLD". 
> 
> I did the rename, because I have seen that the ZSK key 41919 was set to be 
> deleted (and obviously always renamed after that deletion date) from the 
> zone, so I renamed the ".key" and ".private" files to ".key-OLD" and 
> ".private-OLD". 
> 
> I do this rename, because this way my key checking script differentiates, any 
> needed (in effect) key with the "supposedly" (I say supposedly because I 
> would have said that Bind should not be using nowadays that non finding files 
> for nothing!) non needed keys, in order to check that each zone, has always 
> the needed keys for keeping properly signed by Bind (else it would generate 
> them). 
> 
> As I previously commented, I check with a script the existence of all needed 
> keys for each domain. Obviuosly, it's not the same checking a couple of ZSK 
> or just one ZSK and a KSK (per domain), than them plus all outdated keys that 
> each month become outdated. 
> 
> So, how many time should I wait in order to rename that files?. Should I 
> handle them with another dnssec-______ command instead of renaming?. All 
> seems to be working well but I see these errors and was wondering if I could 
> improve the way of handling outdated keys. 
> 
> I have been taking a look at the source code of Bind (the tag of version I'm 
> using), and I have seen that Bind seems not remove any of that key files when 
> they become outdated. Or does it with some param?. I have not been able to 
> find it. I have been taking a look too the ARM, but still no luck on finding 
> the answers I was trying to. 
> 
> Any help very appreciated, 
> 
> Best regards,
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