Hey all, I support a new release: the sooner the better, because a lot of bugs and questions that are now appearing are already saved or implemented! But it might still be a good idea to launch a beta first, for a couple of weeks. I think we should do that not on our official repository but more as a separate download, or a PPA in launchpad... Just to see if we overlooked some bugs...
However there are some things we might have to fix before launching to the real 1.0: - There is this KDE bug that causes backintime to freeze: it hangs in the compare to phase... It only happens with KDE: https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/441628 (and duplicates) - If the config file is write blocked it should give a warning: https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/480180 - I still have to add the .gvfs to the default excluded patterns: https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/422132 - When a error in the plugins occur it should continue and not hang forever: https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/446168 - Add the ionice option: https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/378656, as I also experience really performance loss when a BiT task is running, what for example in case of watching a movie, becomes quite irritating. Those are the most important bugs at the moment I guess. A feature that I am also working on at the moment, however I do not know if we can wait for that, as I am really restricted in my free time nowadays, is a configuration wizard, that just asks the three questions: what, when and where, and would offer a full restore option, as there quite many requests for such a thing. But I have just started on that, and figured out that I have no clue how to get the wizard GTK+ object to work properly, so I guess I will go for separate dialogs that are interlinked.... And a thing that I would like to see in 1.0 is to have a feedback mechanism for restore, like we have already for doing backups (I think it could be quite easy to implement, just hook it up to the message system and to the plugins that we have already for the backups), but that is more an important wish than a necessity for 1.0. I use the Included per Scheduled option, because my backup spans 100 Gb, although it takes slightly more than 2 minutes to do a full incremental backup, I only backup a subfraction of it every 10 minutes. The advantage of this option is in respect to the profiles, that it shows all the snapshots in the same view, and covers the excludes and includes automatically (with profiles you should not forget to exclude your other profiles). On the other hand leaving it out will fix some issues: At the moment we cannot use the --delete-excluded option, what leads to "ghost folders" ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/406092), as that would cause the need for a very complicated hardlinking procedure (as we have to link the current snapshot to several older snapshots depending on the scheduled tasks, or more easily to a permanent new-snapshot folder, that just updates every cycle and would have to branch off the specific folders into the snapshots for specific time-points). To have the a complete view of the available snapshots we could implement a show all profiles feature, what could be easy to implement using the other-folders config entry. But that could be a version 2.0 feature... Actually I think I support your removal, as it would definitely reduce the complexity of the program... Cheers, Bart 2009/11/30 Richard Bailey <[email protected]> > Hi Dan, > > I looked at the ionice option when I first came to BiT, but I didn't work > on it, no. > > I see where the schedule per included setting causes a lot of headache. Now > that BiT has profiles support this option is most likely not needed any more > so I support it's removal. > > The part I was working on is letting the user choose the hour of their > backup if the backup is daily or greater; this will help those who don't > leave their computers on all night since BiT runs these backups at midnight. > Only root has access to anacron which will run missed cron jobs, regular > users don't have this capability. > > I'm finished with the gnome side; KDE is the outstanding part and getting > it to work properly with the schedule per include option, but if that is > removed it's only KDE to complete. > > - Richard > > > On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Dan <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Richard, maybe I'm wrong, but didn't you worked on using ionice option ? >> (I'm talking about https://bugs.launchpad.net/backintime/+bug/482931) >> >> Then I'm restarting the debate about schedule per included directory. >> The implementation is tricky and it can break things. >> There can be a snapshot consistency problem: you have a schedule every 5 >> minutes for a folder and disabled for another. The the snapshot name may >> look like it was take at a specific moment but is only true for scheduled >> folder. This may lead to false bugs too. >> Using profiles is a different story: everything is clear. >> From my point of view there are more CONS than PROS for this feature. >> What do you think ? >> Do you have good reasons not to remove it ? >> I'm ready to remove it for 1.0 but I'm not alone anymore on this project >> ... :) >> >> Regards, >> Dan >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Richard Bailey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> I agree, I think BiT is getting really close for a 1.0 release. I would >>> like to finish my work on the Hour of Backup choice though to make it into >>> 1.0. I haven't had a chance to finish it yet because of work and then my >>> computer died. I should be back up on my feet by this week. >>> >>> - Richard >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 6:24 AM, Dan <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Bart & Richard, >>>> >>>> What do you think, are we ready for the release ? >>>> Is there anything you want to change for this release ? >>>> I think 1.0 can be a nice Christmas gift :) >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Dan >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: >>>> https://launchpad.net/~bit-team<https://launchpad.net/%7Ebit-team> >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : >>>> https://launchpad.net/~bit-team<https://launchpad.net/%7Ebit-team> >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "Asking the wrong questions is the leading cause of wrong answers." >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: >> https://launchpad.net/~bit-team<https://launchpad.net/%7Ebit-team> >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : >> https://launchpad.net/~bit-team<https://launchpad.net/%7Ebit-team> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > > > -- > "Asking the wrong questions is the leading cause of wrong answers." > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~bit-team<https://launchpad.net/%7Ebit-team> > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~bit-team<https://launchpad.net/%7Ebit-team> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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