On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 5:32 PM Billy Tetrud via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> I think involving users more in activation is a good avenue of thought for 
> improving how bitcoin does soft forks. I also think the idea you brought up 
> of some way for people to signal opposition is a good idea. I've suggested a 
> mechanism for signature-based user polling, I've also suggested a mechanism 
> where miners can actively signal for opposing a soft fork. It seems like 
> there should be some common ground between us in those ideas. Where it seems 
> we may perhaps unreconcilably disagree are that A. miners are users too and 
> generally have interests that are important and different than most users, 
> and giving them at least some mechanism to force discussion is appropriate, 
> and B. chain splits are no joke and should almost never be possible 
> accidentally and therefore we should make a significant effort to avoid them, 
> which almost definitely means orderly coordination of miners.

Any user polling system is going to be vulnerable to sybil attacks.

> Do you have anything concrete you want to propose? An example mechanism? Are 
> you simply here advocating your support for BIP8+LOT=true?

Yes, I want BIP+LOT=true (aka the original bip8).
I also want users to be easily able to coordinate resistance to any
given change, as I described in this thread and others and luke has
done many times.
I also generally oppose to speedy trial being used for any consensus
rule change deployment.

Imagine someone comes and proposes a block size increase through
extension block softfork.
Would you like them to use speedy trial or BIP8+LOT=true for deployment?
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