NACK support for 0-conf is harmful for reasons already stated ad nauseum
On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 4:58 AM Daniel Lipshitz via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > A 0-conf double spend caused by FSS-RBF would be harmless since the > original output (address and amounts) remain in the double spending trx. > > So all a merchant would need to do is monitor block inclusion for the > relevant output. Addition of some wallet logic would resolve it easily. > > Technically the only difference is that a FSS-RBF requires an additional > input trx to be included in the second trx. > > Not clear to me, why the limitation of adding an additional input hinders > the added value of FullRBF and how significant that hinderance is. > > > > On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 at 11:59 John Carvalho <j...@synonym.to> wrote: > >> Why wasn't this solution put in place back then? Are there problems with >> the design? >> >> While I still think there are unhealthy side-effects of Full-RBF (like >> more doublespending at unknowing merchants, after years of FSS protection) >> I think discussion of this FSS-RBF feature is worth considering. >> >> -- >> John Carvalho >> CEO, Synonym.to <http://synonym.to/> >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 8:09 AM Daniel Lipshitz <dan...@gap600.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you for bringing that to my attention, apologies for not being >>> aware of it. >>> >>> First-seen-safe replace-by-fee as detailed here >>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-May/008248.html >>> by Peter Todd seems to be a very suitable option and route >>> which balances FullRBF while retaining the significant 0-conf use case. >>> >>> This would seem like a good way forward. >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 6:20 AM Yuval Kogman <nothingm...@woobling.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-May/008248.html >>>> >>> -- > ________________________________ > Daniel Lipshitz > GAP600 > www.Gap600.com > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >
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