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1. Have Pet ABB  Weather - Can we trim horns? (atwoo...@aol.com)
2. Re: Have Pet  ABB Weather - Can we trim horns? (Lucinda)
3. Re: Have Pet ABB  Weather - Can we trim horns? (Cecil R Bearden)
4. Re: Have Pet  ABB Weather - Can we trim horns? (Mark  Wintermute)


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Message:  1
Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 23:16:51 -0400 (EDT)
From:  atwoo...@aol.com
To: blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject:  [Blackbelly] Have Pet ABB Weather - Can we trim horns?
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I searched the archives but didn't find an answer to  whether you can trim  
the horns back a bit. Who knows the inner  physiology of the ABB's horn?  
We  
have pasture pet working  wethers, not show or breeding rams so it is 
important  to keep and fix  one of our Boyz whose horns are growing 
dangerously 
close to the  eyes.  Any info from experience or references where I can get 
this 
info?
Thanks  for your help,
The Atwoods
Placerville,  CA



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Message: 2
Date: Sat,  21 Apr 2012 21:23:51 -0700
From: Lucinda  <utte...@suddenlink.net>
To:  "blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info"
<blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Have  Pet ABB Weather - Can we trim horns?
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Yes you can sand/ trim a  few inches usually 

Sent with 
Lucindas ipod

On Apr 21, 2012,  at 8:16 PM, atwoo...@aol.com wrote:

> I searched the archives but  didn't find an answer to whether you can 
trim  
> the horns back a  bit. Who knows the inner physiology of the ABB's horn?  
We  
>  have pasture pet working wethers, not show or breeding rams so it is 
>  important  to keep and fix one of our Boyz whose horns are growing  
dangerously 
> close to the  eyes. Any info from experience or  references where I can 
get this 
> info?
> Thanks for your  help,
> The Atwoods
> Placerville, CA
> 
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Message:  3
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:32:00 -0500
From: Cecil R Bearden  <crbear...@copper.net>
To:  blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Have Pet ABB  Weather - Can we trim horns?
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A coarse sanding belt or shop roll can  slip between horn and face and 
sand down the horn for some  clearance
Cecil in OKla



On 4/21/2012 11:23 PM, Lucinda  wrote:
> Yes you can sand/ trim a few inches usually
>
> Sent  with
> Lucindas ipod
>
> On Apr 21, 2012, at 8:16 PM,  atwoo...@aol.com wrote:
>
>> I searched the archives but didn't  find an answer to whether you can 
trim
>> the horns back a bit. Who  knows the inner physiology of the ABB's horn? 
 We
>> have pasture  pet working wethers, not show or breeding rams so it is
>>  important  to keep and fix one of our Boyz whose horns are growing  
dangerously
>> close to the  eyes. Any info from experience or  references where I can 
get this
>> info?
>> Thanks for your  help,
>> The Atwoods
>> Placerville,  CA
>>
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Message:  4
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:23:33 -0500
From: "Mark Wintermute"  <winterm...@earthlink.net>
To:  <blackbelly@lists.blackbellysheep.info>
Subject: Re: [Blackbelly] Have  Pet ABB Weather - Can we trim horns?
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Hello  Atwoods,

You can trim the tips of horns usually without much  problem.  If possible
use a pair of large bolt cutters.  The  pinching type cutting action will
limit blood loss.  A metal hack saw  works if the horn is to thick.  The 
horn
is filled with a pulp filled  with blood.  Many horns get broken off when
rams are fighting.  The  blood loss when a horn breaks off is pretty severe.
The tips of the horn have  no pulp and can be trimmed.  The farther you go
from the tip of the horn  the more pulp you will encounter.  The more pulp
the more blood  loss.  Immediately after trimming horns put the sheep where
he will stay  calm, quiet and peaceful.  This keeps his heart rate down and
will slow  any blood loss if you get into the pulp.  You do not want him
running or  fighting with any other sheep.  The best time to do this type  
of
activity is on a really cold day.  Cold days are pretty much over  with.  I
would be concerned with flies now.

I raise polled sheep  but have dealt with improper horns many times.  This 
is
usually the  result of polled genetics being crossed with horn genetics.
This is why I do  not recommend people buying my polled sheep to try to 
raise
horned  sheep.

Good luck,
Mark Wintermute


I searched the archives  but didn't find an answer to whether you can trim
the horns back a bit. Who  knows the inner physiology of the ABB's horn?  We
have pasture pet  working wethers, not show or breeding rams so it is
important  to keep  and fix one of our Boyz whose horns are growing
dangerously close to  the  eyes. Any info from experience or references 
where
I can get  this  info?
Thanks for your help,
The Atwoods
Placerville,  CA

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Once horns are trimmed, does the pulp withdraw a bit like trimming dog  
toenails?  Could the procedure be repeated if the horns threaten again in a  
year or so? We are preparing a "recovery room" in the barn. :-)  So  grateful 
to everyone for your help.
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