starting to look into LGDs locally. I'll try googling on the subject
regarding the dogs themselves, but there are some AB-BB questions
related to dogs I'd like to ask:

male or female dog? does it matter?
at what weight/age are the AB-BB lambs, that they are less likely to
get played with and accidentally killed?
at what age are the dogs when they are less likely to accidentally
kill a AB-BB lamb?

since we only breed once a year--in this case, once in 3 years-- and
only two or three ewes at a time, we don't have a bunch of spare lambs
around to spend allowing a puppy to figure things out.

-Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies



On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Michael Smith <mwsmotorspo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is all great feedback on the LGDs thanks, folks. Mark I am sorry I am 
> not closer. Would love to buy a pup. Here they cost about $500. (Not sure how 
> much you get, though;-P
>
> Carol your minimalist barkers sound like my Aussie Sheila. She's fine in my 
> book. What she does not do is just go on a 1-hour 2am lonesome barking jag 
> that does not stop. I would not be able to deal with that, even with 
> earplugs, which I do use. For her, there's always at least a reason in her 
> mind to bark.  Sometimes she joins in on the local dog chorus of full moon 
> baying and if I don't like it I let her know and she's pretty good about 
> stopping.
>
> When I saw her growl and chase away that full grown coyote the second night, 
> I realized what a fool I had been to take her to the next pasture while two 
> perfectly safe ewes, in a closed paddock, had lambs. Why I was so concerned 
> about their stress levels is beyond me. Now I know the reason the last 
> attackers last year never came back was soley because of Sheila being in 
> there all last year. Not a bad use for an untrained herder.
>
> -Michael, Perino Ranch Blackbellies
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On May 9, 2014, at 4:30 PM, Carol Elkins <celk...@critterhaven.biz> wrote:
>>
>> Michael,
>>
>> Most LGDs believe that a good offense is the best defense and will network 
>> with the entire neighborhood to keep current on the state of affairs. 
>> Networking in this sense is barking. And LGDs need to bark long before there 
>> is a problem to ensure that whatever is out there doesn't become a problem. 
>> In my experience, there are over-barky LGDs, but I have found that my 
>> minimalist LGDs still bark at things that I don't perceive as problems. Like 
>> you, my farm was victim to a combined cougar/coyote attack that killed and 
>> consumed 5 90-lb lambs. I lived under siege until I could purchase my LGDs. 
>> They were 6 months old when they arrived (they don't become adults until 
>> they are 2 years old), but they had their adult bark. That bark is what I 
>> have relied on ever since they arrived in 2008 to keep my farm safe. Yes, it 
>> can be really annoying at times (full moons are particularly problematic), 
>> but I have ear plugs.
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>> At 03:50 PM 5/9/2014, you wrote:
>>> Sheila is a good dog in that she only barks when there's really a
>>> problem. Living only 30-40 feet from the house, that is important to
>>> us.  I'd like to at least try to get the pup to learn from that
>>> example.
>>
>> Carol Elkins
>> Critterhaven--Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep
>> (no shear, no dock, no fuss)
>> Pueblo, Colorado
>> http://www.critterhaven.biz
>>
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