Mr. Lang, If the BB cannot compete in carcass size and needs improvement in moisture, what breed should be crossed with ours in order to be more competitive. I am based in the Philippines so I'm looking for a breed that can thrive in a tropical environment.
----- Original Message ----- From: hlang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: Re: [blackbelly] sheep in china > Don't agree with carcass size. Do you know that we get more for a 60 pound > live weight meat lamb with small bones than a 140 pound ramboulliet / > > We have a market for 300 000 60/70 pound lamb for the jewish and moslem > market ! Can't see a American or Canadian taking this market, this is a > reservation for the Chinese. > > BB have excellent cutts, but not enough meat moisture. There we have to work > on. > > The growth and marketing is the real problem. Lambs have to be ready with 2 > to 4 months, otherwise too expensive to raise. Second we need numbers, as my > clients would not take, a minimum of 150 lambs a week shipped has to be > shipped, as condition.Too many are raising the wrong kind of lamb, too > havey lambs. > > I have been in contact with Texas sale barns, did check where the large > number of Texas meat lambs end up and so on. Dealers make a fortune. > > China is very fast acting. See, we have had joint ventures in large scale, > tree growing, When we did ask for a 25 man to produce cuttings, the next > morning 700 man have been waiting in front of the glass houses. > This is too expensive, was our answer. The chinese politics answered: If you > pay for the 25 daily a normal vage , you get the others for free. So they > went and produced cuttings. The cuttings did cost less than a half cent, the > company sold them in Tokio for a 2.50$ Japanese have had the same plants for > 65.-& on the market. > > Same gone happen with the sheep. They picked in the hundreds the best > embryos of african tribal sheep, similar to Blackbellies. > > My vet, who did harvesting and implanting at our ranch, went to China for > weeks just to do one thing, implanting sheep embryos. > > In short time we have to compete with low priced , tender, best flavoured > lamb meat .... > Regards Helmut > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carol J. Elkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [blackbelly] sheep in china > > > > Blackbelly breeders have known for some time that our breed can't compete > > with the carcass size of other hair sheep, so most of us have found local > > markets for our sheep. I doubt that Blackbelly and Barbado will ever do > > well at a commercial level. This might help protect us from the eventual > > market collapse. > > > > Your information about China cornering the lamb market is interesting and > > frightening. China will end up with our sheep business and our Information > > Technology (computer) jobs all in the interest of "global commerce." > > America cannot compete on a global level with much of anything, I fear. > Our > > rich lifestyle that we have fought so hard to achieve could very well be > > our very demise. Countries such as China can out-man us at a fraction of > > the cost. I digress--that is a subject beyond sheep. > > > > Carol > > > > >Once the Chinese have build up their national flock, watch and see. Good > and > > >cheap products killing the wool sheep production in the US , what else ? > > > > Carol Elkins > > Critterhaven Estate > > Registered Barbados Blackbelly Hair Sheep > > (no shear, no dock, no fuss) > > Pueblo, Colorado > > http://www.critterhaven.biz > > T-shirts, mugs, caps, and more at the > > Barbados Blackbelly Online Store http://www.cafepress.com/blackbellysheep > > > > =============================================== > > This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list > (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). > > To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to > http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > > To search the archives, go to > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > =============================================== > This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). > To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly > To search the archives, go to http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > =============================================== This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). To respond to this message, send e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe or change your membership options, go to http://lists.coyotenet.net/mailman/listinfo/blackbelly To search the archives, go to http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
