In a message dated 4/8/04 1:55:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< Diana, if the Barbado name is changed to "Barbados Blackbelly--horned," what would the advantage be? We solve none of the naming problems that we have now--you have been shown that a great many of the Barbado people out there mistakenly call their animals "Barbados Blackbelly" already! >> Rick, In my previous post, I was simply saying that whatever BBSAI calls their "registered' sheep and how they define what that breed characteristic is they should be consistent. I see what a mess it is because there has been no real breed standard for quite some time. All I know is that our sheep have blackbelly characteristics. The ram has horns. All meet the standards(description) as outlined at the BBSAI for what they call Barbados Blackbelly standards except I'm unsure about the rams color on his tail (haven't measured the length of white blended in). More data: http://www.ansi.okstate.edu/breeds/sheep/barbadosblackbelly/ snip "The evidence reviewed supports the view that the Barbados Blackbelly evolved from crosses of African hair sheep and European wooled breeds. In the case of the Barbados Blackbelly, Ligon established in 1657 that the parent stocks necessary for the evolution of a highly prolific, tropically adapted breed had been established in Barbados in the first quarter-century of colonization. The prolific, wooled ancestor of the Barbados Blackbelly has not been identified. ......" "The Barbados Blackbelly has a variety of color phases varying from basic black and tan color through black, yellow, and variegated pinto patterns. The black color covers the under parts completely in the basal pattern and extends up the neck with black extending down the inside of the legs, on the plank and back of the thighs. The inside hair of the ears is black with a small dash at the rear of the eye. The chin and poll are black. The black underparts and black lines medial to the eye contrasting with the normal tan to reddish coat in most other areas, gives an exotic contrasting appearance. Yellow ewes (pale to reddish yellow) have a white abdomen. The yellow color phase may have been originally derived from a different breed of hair sheep. " "Rams and ewes on the island of Barbados are polled or with short scurs. " Barbardos Blackbelly sheep:- Breed Characteristics. Coat: Complete covering of medium to thick-hair (no wool). Color: All shades of brown tan or yellow, all are highlighted with contrasting black underparts, extending down the inside of the legs. Black points on the nose, forehead, and inside of the ears are black. Rams have a neckpiece of thick hair which extends down the neck to the brisket, some may cover to the shoulder. Head: Medium in size and well in conformation to the neck and body. There is a slight tendency to a roman nose, especially in the ram. They point forward from the side, they should not droop. Horns: Both sexes of the Barbados Blackbelly are polled. Neck: Medium in length, slender in conformation to body size. Rams are heavier and well set to the shoulder. Body: Fairly deep with well-sprung ribs. There is a fair width of back and loin, but a very deficient hindquarter (similar to a goat's). The rump is quite steep from the hips to the pin bones and the tail is set very low. Legs: "Leggy", and generally are quite well set. In general appearance (at a distance) these sheep resemble small deer or antelope. They are very active and lively. They are alert at all times. Compared to the more recognized "mutton type", Barbados Blackbelly sheep are less "squatty" and are slower growing. *********************************** Moufflon-Barbados or Barbado. snip "The Barbado breed originated in Texas. The breed originated from Barbados Blackbelly sheep which were crossed with Rambouillet and mouflon. One of the uses of the Barbado is as a trophy animal on game ranches due to its large curled horns. It is typically tan, tan with a pale or black belly or pied. The coat varies from short hair to coarse wool with a large amount of kemp fibers. Males show the horns for which the breed was selected and the females are polled. " "The Barbado should not be confused with the Barbados Blackbelly although the two are related. Barbados Blackbelly !**exhibit the distinctive color pattern of the breed, tan with black belly and face, which is often times absent in the Barbado.** ! In addition, both sexes of the Barbados Blackbelly are polled while the males of the Barbado are horned. Also the fecundity level in the Barbados Blackbelly is very high with the average litter size being between 1.5 and 2.2. " Look at the Barbado ewe picture doesn't she meet BBSAI standard except that tail looks wrong? In the above paragraph.....if what is being listed at BBSAI as registered Barbado don't have to look like BBS then they are Barbado. However, if Barbado at BBSAI are said to meet BBS characteristics consistently EXCEPT for horns than they need another name. Call them American Blackbelly Sheep??.....because they really aren't BBS or Barbado. Clear as mud, I think. ********************************************************** And then...... http://www.sheepandgoat.com/hairsheep/blackbelly.html Image Gallery Blackbelly ewes 2003 Va State Univ. http://www.sheepandgoat.com/images/BB%20breeding%202003.JPG Blackbelly ewes - Barbados http://www.sheepandgoat.com/images/mabelbbewes.JPG Blackbelly Ram - Barbados http://www.sheepandgoat.com/images/bigbbram.JPG "Barbados Blackbellies are badger-faced, brown tan or yellow in color, with black points and under-parts. They are as long as they are tall and resemble a deer or antelope in appearance. In the Caribbean, both sexes are polled. Barbados Blackbelly lambs typically grow slower than wooled lambs, but produce a carcass with a milder flavor and less body fat. The Barbados Blackbelly is one of the most prolific breeds of sheep in the world. They reach puberty early and have an extended breeding season. In the Caribbean, it is common for ewes to produce three lamb crops in two years. Various research projects have shown hair x wool cross ewes to be more productive than wooled ewes. In the U.S., Blackbellies are often used to train Border Collies and have been used as a game animal. " U.S Blackbelly Sheep just another idea. Diana =============================================== This message is from the Barbados Blackbelly Sheep mailing list (http://www.awrittenword.com/listserv/index.html). 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