In a message dated 3/12/2005 9:16:26 PM Central  Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have an adult ram I want to  castrate... but he's toooooooo big to fit in 
the bands.... I had the 
vet out  to do an older ram before & it was awful... ugh... I hate to have to 
put  this ram thru that.
I *like* him.  Has anyone used one of those bigger  banders?

Diane

I have used the callicrate bander.  It uses  surgical tubing with a metal 
fastener to do the same thing as the little green  cheerio.  There is also one 
thas uses a flat black washer style band.   I have used them all.  There is a 
lesser alternative to the callicrate now,  I cannot recall the name but it is 
in 
succesful farming magazine.  I  borrowed one from a cowman who had problems 
with large wounds after the scrotum  fell off.  I had to teach him to leave 
some skin hanging.  I have used  bands on cattle and some sheep.  Never had a 
problem.  Have used it on  calves as young as 1 day old.  

Cecil
Piedmont, OK  

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