akhiezer wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 11:40:27 -0600
>> From: Bruce Dubbs <bruce.du...@gmail.com>
>> To: BLFS Development List <blfs-dev@linuxfromscratch.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blfs-dev] ppp/pppoe [was: create-service-dir in
>>      blfs-boo(t)scripts]
>>
>> Thomas Trepl wrote:
>>> Am Freitag, 31. Januar 2014, 10:11:35 schrieb Bruce Dubbs:
>>>> Thomas Trepl wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> So my question is
>>>>> a) are there (really not enough) people out there who are using ppp to
>>>>> connect to internet so it would make sense to think about a reanimation
>>>>> of ppp at all?
>>>> I doubt it.  The page was archived in October 2012 and this is the first
>>>> comment about that.
>>> Yes, I never understood why this has happened...
>>>
>
>
> Thomas:
> Well, sometimes folks look at decisions made in b/lfs, and decide that
> discretion ..., etc: and just continue with - and carry forward - their
> own builds/scripts/notes, rather than tilt at windmills or try to push
> water uphill.
>
>
>>>>
>>>>> b) could a reduction of ppp to pppoe only (moving the remainder to the
>>>>> wiki) motivate some editors/users to bring the page uptodate? It seems so
>>>>> that this is a more or less one-time job as there is no further
>>>>> development at the ppp package (2.4.5 is of 2009). The work is more in
>>>>> the service scripts.
>>>> I'd recommend a hint if you really want to pursue it.  ppp is really old
>>>> technology.
>
>
> So is ifconfig, and you seem to want to make some effort to retain that.
>
>
>>> Seems so, last update in 2009, but which other technologie is than to use 
>>> for
>>> DSL connections?
>>
>> Probably something like this:
>>
>> http://cmcnet.en.made-in-china.com/product/GoUJMYWFfyVd/China-Thomson-Speedtouch-ST585-V6-54mpbs-4-Port-Wireless-ADSL2-Modem.html
>>
>> Most people who have a computer should be able to afford $18 US.
>>
>
>
> I think that that _totally_ misses the point. Much DSL provision uses
> pppoe/pppoa. If you don't want to use a black-box router, then you'll likely
> want/need to use pppoe/pppoe atop ppp, directly.

Why does it miss the point?  If you want to have a computer, you buy a 
system with a cpu, ram, etc.  If you want to have an internet 
connection, you buy what is needed, whether is is an acoustic modem, dsl 
router, or whatever.

   -- Bruce

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