On 16-09-2014 12:49, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
> 
>> The reason I modified it, was not just because I wanted to.
>>
>> During the discussions (dev and ticket, IIRC), it was mentioned not only
>> once that SQLite should be removed from Tcl, either because we do it
>> with other packages, or because ArchLinux developers do it.
> 
> The first reason is good for consistency, but there can be exceptions. I
> don't like th esecond reason.  Just be cause Arch does something,
> doesn't mean we should.  What about Debian or RedHat or ...?

Well, I searched about that and the only distribution that is not
considering tcl a dependency for sqlite and is not installing sqlite-tcl
(in the sense that I had included in the book) is BLFS.

Debian, Gentoo, RedHat (Fedora), SUSE (they changed and ask in their
page to be name all capitals), Ubuntu, Arch and another one that I can't
remember all have sqlite-tcl. There is even many discussions about
"sqlite now depends on tcl?)

> 
>> Then, I concluded we were facing a bug in BLFS and it should be
>> urgently fixed before the 7.6 release, and used ArchLinux as example.
> 
> If the fix was trouble free, I don't have any objection, but it caused
> much more trouble than it was worth.

I don't understand. Which troubles?

> 
>> The reversion I did yesterday is not my preferred one, just wanted to
>> run out of the problem. But in my particular machines, I will *remove*
>> SQLite from Tcl, because to the best of my knowledge, the own developers
>> fear it and *it is useless*, perhaps something they are developing for
>> future use.
> 
> That's your choice of course, but I really don't think it matters either
> way.

Thanks.

I still think the best would be to have it as optional, be it in tcl or
in sqlite.

One more thing.

I remember other packages we have modified against developers
recommendations. For quite some time, udev from systemd was one of them.

But I have no knowledge to contradict the developers as the developer
from those distributions above seem to have.

I am just replying to for the sake of it, not intending to change the
book. Next time I will discuss more than this, before doing major
modifications.

-- 
[]s,
Fernando
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