Em 07-08-2015 23:01, Bruce Dubbs escreveu:
> Ken Moffat wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 10:20:26PM -0300, Fernando de Oliveira wrote:
>>>>> Does that make things better for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Bruce
>>>>>
>>>> But from glibc in chapter 6 the last line of the Next link is still
>>>> feint - I have '>', 'Next' in green, 'Adjusting the' lighter than I
>>>> would like but not a problem for the link, 'Toolchain' feint and it
>>>> would be hard to read if I didn't know what it said.
This is the same for the 'Prev' sub-title: if it is long and needs to be
broken in more lines, new ones are feint, e.g, click in 6.1.
Next is "Preparing Virtual Kernel File System" (I doubt Ken will notice
the "File System" in the third line - I missed it in my first inspections).
Prev is "Installing Basic System Software". Again, Didn1t notice
"Software" in my first inspection.
This is because they are 'en dégradé'. Is it a layer above, or the front
can be made 'en dégradé'?
>>>> In the same window with new-style LFS everything in the text has
>>>> 5.2cm margins (2 inches) on each side, and the left margin is used
>>>> for navigation but the right margin is empty. If I temporarily make
>>>> it full screen, the text portion maxes out at about 21cm wide, with
>>>> margins just over 7cm wide. For LFS, the waste of space is not a
>>>> problem - but for BLFS it will be vey annoying. At least I have my
>>>> screens' brightnesses adjusted so that all the white does not dazzle
>>>> me ;-)
>>>>
>>>> ĸen
>>>>
>>>> [1.] I had not realised that 'Next' from the LFS index page only
>>>> goes forward.
Didn't understand this comment.
>>>
>>> I changed my mind, after Ken's posts.
>>>
>>> Perhaps what you are saying, Ken, is:
>>>
>>> {{{
>>> We are very happy with the books now.
>>>
>>> We don't understand the necessity for modifications.
>>> }}}
>>
>> I can see some benefits to the change - on my netbook it looks good
>> and has a small margin on the right of the page (with all navigation
>> on the right). But on my desktop it still wastes space at the right
>> in any wide window, and seems to have a hardcoded maximum usable
>> line length. So no, that was not what I'm saying.
Sorry, I did read first posts from each one, not the followings, neither
the one I replied to. I had worked from 6 to over 22 hour, and couldn't
read fine by then (today, a couple of mistakes in my commit, due to
that, and will fix them later).
First time I saw the page, I liked very much.
After Ken's first comment, I realized there were problem, then went to
compare to the current book, and started thinking if we really wanted
the change.
>>> As Ken wrote, I read it perfectly in my tablet, netbook, notebook and
>>> desktop.
>>>
>>
>> For LFS it now looks ok. But for BLFS I have raised questions,
>> quite apart from the waste of space in right margins in wide
>> windows.
Now, I think it is good having a maximum width, same old reason that
newspapers and books sometimes have more than one column. It would be
too much, asking for multicolumn when using in a large full screen mode.
> I agree that at some window sizes the right margin is too big. I'm sure
> there is a way to force the icons to always be on the left (or right if
> that is preferable).
>
> The really nice thing from my perspective is that the links do not
> scroll with the text. They are always visible.
>
> -- Bruce
>
I agree.
One minor point is that "Note", "Important" and "Warning" boxes in the
original have a coloured background. New one has a coloured bar at the
left. New one has better colour choice, but I'd rather they be not a
bar, but the background. This is because some of them are missed by the
user, worse yet if it is more subtle, just a vertical thin bar.
Overall, I like it and probably adapt well editing it.
My first reply was more in despair. I couldn't be quiet, but was not in
shape to write anything, yesterday.
My apologies to the French team that I do like very much and even
navigate in their site.
My thanks to the French team.
Please, think that in BLFS there are old people with weak eyesight
editing the books (I'm one of them). This can be not only a curse, but a
gift, because I think that who did the first page, if not a bright young
person, at least a bright person with perfect eyesight.
I believe that with Ken's detailed inspections and Bruce's deep
knowledge in many programming languages, we will get a much better book,
from the French major modification.
--
[]s,
Fernando
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