Ken Moffat wrote:
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 08:06:25PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
We are getting pretty close to the package freeze for LFS-7.8. I am
currently waiting for util-linux-2.27 which should be released very soon.
Doe anyone know of any other LFS packages that have imminent releases of
new stable packages?
Just got a note from the util-linux maintainer and he doesn't anticipate
release until Aug 25/26 time frame. Should we hold the 7.8 package freeze
that long?
If we do, we may also be able to get in KDE Applications 15.08 which are
scheduled right now for Aug 19th. Plasma 5.4 is also due on Aug 20.
On the other hand, if we wait for the latest on everything, we will end up
waiting forever.
To freeze or not to freeze, that is the question.
-- Bruce
My current view is that BLFS (on LFS as of a few days ago) is not
ready for release. For me, qt-5.5.0 appears to not work adequately
if built in /usr, and appears to be very fragile when trying to
build it (see my post from a few minutes ago). Also, sddm did not
work reliably (poweroff, reboot, suspend) when I last tested it, i.e.
it seems to need more daemons but we haven't worked out which. To
reiterate on that - I was unable to use startkde (i.e. plasma) with
kde5 in /opt because there was nowhere to tell sddm how to find
plasma. If I ran startkde from runlevel 3 I could, after stopping
that, telinit 5 and get all of sddm working - until I rebooted, at
which time I lost poweroff, reboot, suspend.
But last time I looked, the main book did not have plasma, so why
do you care about a point increase of that ?
I was hoping to add it.
I shall continue to look at my qt5 issues (I really want to get
qupzilla built with qt5 again), but at the moment I seem to be going
two steps forward, three steps back and I have no idea whether I
will manage to solve any of these issues.
However, I should also add that I've never been particularly keen on
fixed 6-monthly release dates and I consider that releasing an -rc
in August/September is not an ideal time for those of us in the
northern hemisphere. Reputedly, Americans do not take vacations -
most other peoples who can afford to use computers do take them.
LOL. What's a vacation?
ĸen, who appears to be drifting towards the "it will be ready when
it's ready" attitude - I must have inhaled something from hyperion
during the pain of the AmigaOne years (pain as in "trying to get a
working 2.6 kernel on flakey hardware which turned out to not do
coherent DMA" - the phrase I quoted was from hyperion when asked
about OS4).
Setting up for a regular release schedule gives us a goal. I know you
recall those days when we did not release a 'stable' blfs at all. That
really didn't work out.
LFS is certainly a different process than BLFS. The number of packages
in BLFS is about 15 times the number in LFS so the churn is quite a bit
less. On top of that, there's really no good way to split up BLFS. The
interdependencies are just too great.
On the other hand, I don't get too upset if the schedule slips somewhat.
BTW, Qt5 has been working fine for me using KDE Apps like kdenlive. I
do run them in xfce though. And I don't like display managers, but I'll
start working on them after the freeze.
-- Bruce
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