Em 17-08-2015 02:08, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: > Ken Moffat wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 08:06:25PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>>> We are getting pretty close to the package freeze for LFS-7.8. I am >>>> currently waiting for util-linux-2.27 which should be released very >>>> soon. >>>> >>>> Doe anyone know of any other LFS packages that have imminent >>>> releases of >>>> new stable packages? >>> >>> Just got a note from the util-linux maintainer and he doesn't anticipate >>> release until Aug 25/26 time frame. Should we hold the 7.8 package >>> freeze >>> that long? >>> >>> If we do, we may also be able to get in KDE Applications 15.08 which are >>> scheduled right now for Aug 19th. Plasma 5.4 is also due on Aug 20. >>> >>> On the other hand, if we wait for the latest on everything, we will >>> end up >>> waiting forever. >>> >>> To freeze or not to freeze, that is the question. >>> >>> -- Bruce >>>
Not to freeze. :-) >> My current view is that BLFS (on LFS as of a few days ago) is not >> ready for release. For me, qt-5.5.0 appears to not work adequately >> if built in /usr, and appears to be very fragile when trying to >> build it (see my post from a few minutes ago). Also, sddm did not >> work reliably (poweroff, reboot, suspend) when I last tested it, i.e. >> it seems to need more daemons but we haven't worked out which. To >> reiterate on that - I was unable to use startkde (i.e. plasma) with >> kde5 in /opt because there was nowhere to tell sddm how to find >> plasma. If I ran startkde from runlevel 3 I could, after stopping >> that, telinit 5 and get all of sddm working - until I rebooted, at >> which time I lost poweroff, reboot, suspend. >> >> But last time I looked, the main book did not have plasma, so why >> do you care about a point increase of that ? > > I was hoping to add it. > One more reason. >> I shall continue to look at my qt5 issues (I really want to get >> qupzilla built with qt5 again), but at the moment I seem to be going >> two steps forward, three steps back and I have no idea whether I >> will manage to solve any of these issues. >> >> However, I should also add that I've never been particularly keen on >> fixed 6-monthly release dates and I consider that releasing an -rc >> in August/September is not an ideal time for those of us in the >> northern hemisphere. Reputedly, Americans do not take vacations - >> most other peoples who can afford to use computers do take them. > > LOL. What's a vacation? > I didn't use to take vacation. But age obliges me to have some breaks, as you all know. >> ĸen, who appears to be drifting towards the "it will be ready when >> it's ready" attitude - I must have inhaled something from hyperion >> during the pain of the AmigaOne years (pain as in "trying to get a >> working 2.6 kernel on flakey hardware which turned out to not do >> coherent DMA" - the phrase I quoted was from hyperion when asked >> about OS4). Ken, this paragraph was the cause of *minutes* of LOL. > Setting up for a regular release schedule gives us a goal. I know you > recall those days when we did not release a 'stable' blfs at all. That > really didn't work out. > > LFS is certainly a different process than BLFS. The number of packages > in BLFS is about 15 times the number in LFS so the churn is quite a bit > less. On top of that, there's really no good way to split up BLFS. The > interdependencies are just too great. > > On the other hand, I don't get too upset if the schedule slips somewhat. Agree with Ken proposal of a different schedule, although it could remain fixed 6-monthly releases. We could discuss what are the better months. What are the opinions? > > BTW, Qt5 has been working fine for me using KDE Apps like kdenlive. I > do run them in xfce though. And I don't like display managers, but I'll > start working on them after the freeze. > > -- Bruce > I still have not understood why we have those problems with sddm. Will try something that has been delayed, because I'm out 0f pace. Bruce, your help with this issue would be much appreciated before freeze. It doesn't take long to install sddm. -- []s, Fernando -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page
