On 2020-09-09 10:31 +0100, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2020 at 12:50:16PM -0500, Bruce Dubbs via blfs-dev wrote:
> > On 9/8/20 6:19 AM, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote:
> > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 07:00:08PM +0100, Ken Moffat via blfs-dev wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 01:33:49PM +0800, Xi Ruoyao via blfs-dev wrote:
> > > > > I just drafted js78 page.  When it was built, the building system
> > > > > utilized some
> > > > > LLVM tools (llvm-objdump and llvm-profdata).
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is a rustc built with shipped LLVM providing llvm-objdump and llvm-
> > > > > profdata,
> > > > > which could be used during firefox or js build?  If not we should list
> > > > > LLVM as a
> > > > > firefox/js hard dependency.
> > > > 
> > > > It seems to.
> > > > 
> > > > On my experimental build last month with llvm-11-rc I had to build
> > > > rust with its shipped llvm.  Clearly I had already installed those
> > > > two programs, but looking at the log I see
> > > > 
> > > > [1656/1728] Linking CXX executable bin/llvm-objdump
> > > >   and
> > > > [1620/1728] Linking CXX executable bin/llvm-profdata
> > > > 
> > > > In my current build with system llvm neither of those is mentioend
> > > > in the log.
> > > > 
> > > Coming back to this, two points:
> > > 
> > > 1. It might be that we should anyway list clang from llvm as a hard
> > > dependency.  At some point before we released 10.0 I had hidden
> > > clang on this system - I guess that was while exploring thunderbird
> > > builds with gcc - and forgotten to reinstate it.
> > > 
> > > Today I was trying to build firefox-81beta (if anyone else wants to
> > > build 81, please read the wiki - creating the python virtual
> > > environments has been separated out of ./mach build) and eventually
> > > got it to run ./mach build, only to fail because it couldn't find
> > > clang which is apparently needed for cbindgen to use.
> > > 
> > > I have not yet played with current firefox-esr in the absence of
> > > clang, nor current js68, but I see from my firefox-78.2.0esr log:
> > > 
> > >   0:22.46 checking for cbindgen... /usr/bin/cbindgen
> > >   0:22.46 checking for rustfmt... /opt/rustc/bin/rustfmt
> > >   0:22.46 checking for clang for bindgen... /usr/bin/clang++
> > >   0:22.46 checking for libclang for bindgen... /usr/lib/libclang.so
> > >   0:22.46 checking that libclang is new enough... yes
> > > 
> > > In practice, at the moment with rust using system llvm we recommend
> > > clang, but when llvm has its next release we'll probably have to
> > > drop back to the shipped llvm again, so bigger and slower llvm
> > > compiles.
> > > 
> > > 2. In llvm, should we recommend clang instead of listing it as
> > > optional ?
> > 
> > Yes.
> > 
> > At the moment, both clang and compiler-rt are listed as
> > > optional.  On my less-capable desktop/notebook machines I don't
> > > build compiler-rt, but obviously I build clang on all of them.
> > > I guess the real question is:
> > > 
> > > Do BLFS users build llvm without clang, and if so, what do they use
> > > it for ?
> > 
> > I do not know.  I always build both clang and compiler-rt, but to be honest,
> > I don't know what we would use compiler-rt for.
> > 
> >   -- Bruce
> 
> Hi Bruce,
> 
> I've now confirmed that with firefox-78.2.0esr the initial configury
> fails in the same way if clang is not available.  That is, of
> course, on a build using CC=gcc CXX=g++.

But js78 builds successfully without clang.  (I moved libclang.so and clang
executables away.)

I'm still not sure about llvm-profdata and llvm-objdump.
-- 
Xi Ruoyao <xry...@mengyan1223.wang>
School of Aerospace Science and Technology, Xidian University

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