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got hired to work at his local Mack store in AL.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question 
CentinelSystem Driver


Since I do not have a Mac yet, I am no expert.  The Changes to Snow Leopard
just came out last week and accessible iPod Touch software just came out
yesterday I think.  I have not looked into Braille.  I am not able to read
Braille, the sensitivity in my remaining fingers is too limited.  My sister
who teaches Braille tried to teach me.  I am sure that Open Book would work
in an emulation window if needed.  Those are great questions.  As I keep
considering a Mac, I will be looking to see if there are Mac only solutions.
I also had an Unix background and love the idea of sed, awk, grep pearl and
shell scripting being available.  My daughter wants to attend an Art / Film
school where a Mac laptop is included in the tuition.

Don Marang


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Øyvind Lode" <oyvind.l...@gmail.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 11:59 AM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] MAC OS accessibility - was:RE: question
CentinelSystem Driver


> Interesting.
>
> I really want to move away from Windows, but I have not really found an
> alternative.
>
> I have a UNIX background so the move to MAC should not be that hard...
>
> How is the Braille support on MAC?
>
> I really need Braille capabilities, an accessible web browser, accessible
> email and secure shell to access my Linux machines both at home and at
> work.
>
>
> I also need Open Book or similar to scan and read my snail mail.
> I suppose I can set up a dual boot on the MAC to run XP just to be able to
> use Open Book.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang
> Sent: 10. september 2009 17:35
> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
>
> Hi Mathew,
>
> I usually get risky and try their betas.  If it was not for the scripting
> capability I would probably switch to another screen reader.
> Unfortunately,
> FS is unable or unwilling to provide support for JAWS script functions
> that
> do not work as documented!  I am seriously considering buying a Mac.
> Apple
> seems serious now about accessibility!  I like what I hear about the
> improvements in Voice Over in Snow Leopard.  Voice Over also has Apple
> Scripting capabilities now which controls more than just the screen
> reader.
> Apple's decision to include Voice Over on the new iPhone and an accessible
> iPod don't hurt demonstrating Apple's commitment either.
>
> I removed Sentinel from my computer to see if the USB problem goes away.
> I
> had never noticed it in the Programs list before.  What version of
> Sentinel
> is installed on your computer?  Perhaps FS just updated this software
> during
> the JAWS 11 beta installation.  The version I removed was 7.5.0.
>
>
> Don Marang
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew_2010" <matthew_2...@charter.net>
> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
>
>
>>I became kinda curious after reading your message, and I looked in control
>>panel and discovered I also have this Sentinal system driver and am not
>>running Jaws 11. Its possible that a previous version of jaws installed
>>this, or maybe another piece of software installed it. Its only some .5
>>megs so I decided to just leave it there. It seems as though Jaws installs
>>an inordinate amount of junk on one's computer. I'm sure if you ask FS
>>they
>
>>will not agree its junk, but I also checked out the window eyes programs
>>folder and it had some 98 megs of files but FS has a total of 450+ megs of
>>files--this is without the FS daisy tutorials. In short, I'd say just
>>leave
>
>>that sentinel driver there. some time ago I tried uninstalling some
>>strange
>
>>file in my control panel and jaws crumbled. I had to reinstall jaws all
>>over again. I too get those strange USB connecting problems, but I don't
>>know if its jaws or something else. I notice it only happens when I
>>actually connect and disconnect something I attached--I get the sounds out
>>of nowhere hours later. I do have to say that I've attached many USB
>>devices including external hard drives and USB drives and can't recall
>>hearing any of these sounds. Though its possible I have learned to ignore
>>then and simply don't recall when they happen. Its for these frustrations
>>I
>
>>don't install freedom scientific betas as it serves me no benefit to wreck
>>my computer in order to help an organization like FS simply sell the
>>product I tested right back to me. Its not just my time and effort that
>>they are taking from me, it can also be my own computer's reliable
>>functionality. I say no thanks to that and I call FS tech support at any
>>slight hint of a bug demanding they fix the problems with the now possibly
>>$2000 I have invested in their screen reader.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Donald Marang" <donald.mar...@gmail.com>
>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 6:11 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
>>
>>
>>> Thanks Mathew for performing that simple lookup.  I could not directly
>>> respond to your email because Windows Mail thought your message was
>>> fishing!
>>>
>>> I did notice that this software was installed as part of JAWS 11 beta!
>>> Not sure why JAWS needs this type of USB security!  Have they
>>> incorporated the dongle version into JAWS 11?  I noticed this was now
>>> part of JAWS 11 because it failed during installation.  I discovered
>>> that
>
>>> the only way it would install without error was to turn off Trend Micro
>>> Security (antivirus and firewall) software that came with my Dell.
>>>
>>> I am very uncomfortable with this software for many reasons.  Most
>>> importantly, I have been having USB problems on this Vista computer ever
>>> since I installed JAWS 11 beta!  My computer keeps making those USB plug
>>> in / unplug sounds all the time!  my USB keyboard stops responding
>>> randomly! Unacceptable!  I noticed that Vista or Windows 7 were not
>>> mentioned in Mathew's link.  I know that may not be the same version
>>> installed, but it is not a good sign.  I did go into the Device Manager
>>> and reinstall all of the USB devices using the laptop keyboard.  That
>>> only helped for a short time. I don't even think I need to run JAWS 11
>>> beta for my USB keyboard to go haywire.
>>>
>>> I am going to report this to FS and uninstall the beta!  I wanted to
>>> play
>
>>> more with ResearchIt, but being able to type is more important.  I hope
>>> getting rid of JAWS 11 also completely removes Sentinel completely!
>>>
>>> Don Marang
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Michael Amaro" <mikeam...@earthlink.net>
>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
>>>
>>>
>>>> Do I need it installed on my system?
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Michael Amaro" <mikeam...@earthlink.net>
>>>> To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 10:34 PM
>>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] question Centinel System Driver
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello listers,
>>>>> Can some one please tell me what the Centinel system Driver is used
>>>>> fore? I am using a del1525 inspron laptop.  Windows XP Pro and jaws 9.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Michael
>>>>> Windows Live ID and E-mail:
>>>>> mikeam...@earthlink.net
>>>>> Skype ID:
>>>>> mikeameli
>>>>> Feel Free to add me..
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