What are the differences between VMWare Player and Workstation? Also is
there a VINUX virtual machine I can download anywhere?
tia
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Marang
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 11:41 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
The VMware JAWS scripts are at:
http://mysite.verizon.net/marangs/VMware.html
They rreally are not necessary with Player 3.0, which now is 95%
accessible
without scripts. Unless, you have needs like networked teams of virtual
machines or snapshot / clone / movie (recording of all changes)
playback, I
highly recommend the free VMware Player 3.0 software. The scripts for
Workstation are more productive.
Don Marang
--------------------------------------------------
From: "G.Braille"<g.brai...@sympatico.ca>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:27 PM
To:<blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
Hi Don Marang
Can you post your site to check out the type of jaws script which you
have
there?
Thanks!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Marang"<donald.mar...@gmail.com>
To:<blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
| Being a consumer sucks! I am still used to site licenses of most
software,
| and if there was a seat count, I had no problem getting a seat.
| Fortunately, most of my use of virtualization is with Vinux and will
| probably stay that way due to these issues. It sure would be nice
to be
| able to run older versions of Windows and JAWS to test JAWS scripts.
Since
| I provide scripts free, it is not possible to invest in worthwhile
things
| such as MCP.
|
| Don Marang
|
| --------------------------------------------------
| From: "Frank Ventura"<frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>
| Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 8:24 AM
| To:<blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
| Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|
|> Absolutely, the best thing I ever did was becoming a MCP/MCSA and
|> getting an action pack subscription so all of my internal testing
|> machines can make use of that licensing.
|> Frank
|>
|> -----Original Message-----
|> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
|> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jacob
|> Kruger
|> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 7:28 AM
|> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
|> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|>
|> I know, and, fortunately, my current employer is a MCSP as far as
I
|> know, so
|> they can provide me with multiple licences if I need it.
|>
|> Stay well
|>
|> Jacob Kruger
|> Blind Biker
|> Skype: BlindZA
|> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
|>
|> ----- Original Message -----
|> From: "Frank Ventura"<frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>
|> To:<blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
|> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 2:21 PM
|> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|>
|>
|>> Having done quite a bit of work n virtualized environments the
rule
of
|>> thumb that works is that when t comes to Windows make sure you
have a
|>> license for every incident that you are running. When it comes to
JFW
|> if
|>> you need to have multiple JFW incidents running at the same time
|>> consider buying the network version of JFW, it makes life much,
much
|>> easier.
|>> Frank
|>>
|>> -----Original Message-----
|>> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
|>> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Jacob
|>> Kruger
|>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 7:03 PM
|>> To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
|>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|>>
|>> Makes sense.
|>>
|>> I think I would generally just run a virtual version of jaws in
40
|>> minute
|>> mode etc., but even without actually allowing an installation of
|> windows
|>> to
|>> carry out it's online activation, you'd still need to enter a
|>> registration
|>> key during installation, and that would possibly toggle something
to
|> do
|>> with
|>> your licence at some stage.
|>>
|>> Honestly though, for now, the only virtual machine have tried out
much
|>> is
|>> vinux, and there's not such an issue there, but I did want to try
out
|>> things
|>> like windows 95 etc. to try out versions of narrator I have that
are
|>> meant
|>> to work on them, but suppose that also negates this joint licence
|> issue
|>> as
|>> such.
|>>
|>> Stay well
|>>
|>> Jacob Kruger
|>> Blind Biker
|>> Skype: BlindZA
|>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
|>>
|>> ----- Original Message -----
|>> From: "Donald Marang"<donald.mar...@gmail.com>
|>> To:<blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
|>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 1:42 AM
|>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|>>
|>>
|>>> Good question! According to my attempts to get answers from
|>> Microsoft,
|>>> Apple and Freedom Scientific. The answer from Apple is simple.
|>> Anyone
|>>> attempting to run their Operating System on any hardware that is
not
|>> from
|>>> Apple will be prosecuted! the response from the other two
depend on
|>> who
|>>> you ask, and what day it is. Microsoft clearly requires anyone
|>> running
|>>> Windows in a Virtual Machine on a Mac or Linux platform must
buy a
|>>> separate license for that installation. Microsoft used to be
clear
|>> that a
|>>> license was needed for each virtual machine. This did not get
much
|>> push
|>>> back until lately when Microsoft who now wants to sell
virtualization
|>> to
|>>> consumers. I understandMicrosoft's view of licensing Virtual
|> Machines
|>> on
|>>> a computer running the same OS, or even a version previously
updated
|>> to
|>>> the current version has relaxed a bit. However, there are
actually
|>>> provisions in the Windows 7 license that are very strict and
make
|>>> ffollowing official Microsoft on screen instructions during
|>> installation
|>>> illegal! For instance, the way the licence is written, it is
not
|>> legal to
|>>> create a dual oot system that can boot both the 32 bit and 64
bit
|>> versions
|>>> of Windows 7! However, any technical person at Microsoft will
say
it
|>> is
|>>> perfectly legitimate. Currently installing and authorizing JAWS
in a
|>>> Virtual Machine will use up aa license key! Everyone I talked
to at
|>>> Freedom Scientific so far think that would be acceptable. I
have
not
|>>> pushed it yet to the point where I needed to talk to a person to
add
|>> more
|>>> keys, so I do not know how they would handle that. I have
considered
|>> a
|>>> dongle version of JAWS, which should automatically authorize as
many
|>>> Virtual Machines as you like. Since I have not tried this, I
have
no
|>> idea
|>>> if this has issues like the host falling back to demo mode if
you
|>> spend
|>>> too much time in the Virtual Machine with the USB dongle
attached.
|>>>
|>>> It sure makes open solutions like Linux and NVDA look great,
since
|>> these
|>>> issues go away!
|>>>
|>>> Don Marang
|>>>
|>>> --------------------------------------------------
|>>> From: "Jacob Kruger"<jac...@mailzone.co.za>
|>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:30 PM
|>>> To:<blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
|>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|>>>
|>>>> Along the lines of that, if I just wanted a clean, test
instance of
|>> my
|>>>> current operating system - does it count as a licence issue if
I
|>> install
|>>>> it on a virtual machine that runs within my normally used
instance
|> of
|>> the
|>>>> same licenced installation?
|>>>>
|>>>> In other words, while I would be making use of 2 copies of the
same
|>>>> licence, it would however be on the same physical machine.
|>>>>
|>>>> Suppose it might actually cause validation issues if they were
both
|>>>> online at the same time as well.
|>>>>
|>>>> Not too important/relevant as such, but just wondering.
|>>>>
|>>>> Stay well
|>>>>
|>>>> Jacob Kruger
|>>>> Blind Biker
|>>>> Skype: BlindZA
|>>>> '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...'
|>>>>
|>>>> ----- Original Message -----
|>>>> From: "Frank Ventura"<frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com>
|>>>> To:<blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
|>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:05 PM
|>>>> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|>>>>
|>>>>
|>>>>>A virtual machine is just that another machine. You will need
to
buy
|>> an
|>>>>> unused copy of the retail version of XP (try EBay) and
install it
|>> into
|>>>>> a newly created virtual machine.
|>>>>> Frank Ventura
|>>>>>
|>>>>>
|>>>>> -----Original Message-----
|>>>>> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
|>>>>> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin
|>>>>> Andrews
|>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:42 PM
|>>>>> To: blind-computing
|>>>>> Subject: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Hi,
|>>>>>
|>>>>> I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain a Windows XP
|>> virtual
|>>>>> machine. I already have VMware player installed. I did some
|> browsing
|>> on
|>>>>> the Internet, but it looks like I need to insert my Windows XP
cd,
|>> which
|>>>>> I don't have Windows xp. Isn't the purpose of a vm is so you
can
|> run
|>> it
|>>>>> without a cd?
|>>>>>
|>>>>> If anyone could direct to any links on the WEB where I may be
able
|>> to
|>>>>> download a virtual machine, either Windows XP home or pro,
that
|>> would be
|>>>>> much appreciated.
|>>>>>
|>>>>> Thank you.
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