Don, I have been speaking to a few folks at Microsoft as well and have discovered that a separate license for each incident of their desktop operating systems is always requied. However with certain versions of Windows 2008, such as data center edition and enterprise edition you have license rights to run a physical host and a virtualized guest with one license assuming they are both installed on the same physical hardware. As far as JFW goes I have never been able to get a dongle to authorize more then one incident of JFW at the same time, but admittedly I haven't really put much effort into that experiment either. FS is pretty good at resetting your activation count if you can document why you need multiple activations. Frank
-----Original Message----- From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Donald Marang Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:42 PM To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine Good question! According to my attempts to get answers from Microsoft, Apple and Freedom Scientific. The answer from Apple is simple. Anyone attempting to run their Operating System on any hardware that is not from Apple will be prosecuted! the response from the other two depend on who you ask, and what day it is. Microsoft clearly requires anyone running Windows in a Virtual Machine on a Mac or Linux platform must buy a separate license for that installation. Microsoft used to be clear that a license was needed for each virtual machine. This did not get much push back until lately when Microsoft who now wants to sell virtualization to consumers. I understandMicrosoft's view of licensing Virtual Machines on a computer running the same OS, or even a version previously updated to the current version has relaxed a bit. However, there are actually provisions in the Windows 7 license that are very strict and make ffollowing official Microsoft on screen instructions during installation illegal! For instance, the way the licence is written, it is not legal to create a dual oot system that can boot both the 32 bit and 64 bit versions of Windows 7! However, any technical person at Microsoft will say it is perfectly legitimate. Currently installing and authorizing JAWS in a Virtual Machine will use up aa license key! Everyone I talked to at Freedom Scientific so far think that would be acceptable. I have not pushed it yet to the point where I needed to talk to a person to add more keys, so I do not know how they would handle that. I have considered a dongle version of JAWS, which should automatically authorize as many Virtual Machines as you like. Since I have not tried this, I have no idea if this has issues like the host falling back to demo mode if you spend too much time in the Virtual Machine with the USB dongle attached. It sure makes open solutions like Linux and NVDA look great, since these issues go away! Don Marang -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jacob Kruger" <jac...@mailzone.co.za> Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 3:30 PM To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine > Along the lines of that, if I just wanted a clean, test instance of my > current operating system - does it count as a licence issue if I install > it on a virtual machine that runs within my normally used instance of the > same licenced installation? > > In other words, while I would be making use of 2 copies of the same > licence, it would however be on the same physical machine. > > Suppose it might actually cause validation issues if they were both online > at the same time as well. > > Not too important/relevant as such, but just wondering. > > Stay well > > Jacob Kruger > Blind Biker > Skype: BlindZA > '...fate had broken his body, but not his spirit...' > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Ventura" <frank.vent...@littlebreezes.com> > To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine > > >>A virtual machine is just that another machine. You will need to buy an >> unused copy of the retail version of XP (try EBay) and install it into >> a newly created virtual machine. >> Frank Ventura >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com >> [mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kevin >> Andrews >> Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 2:42 PM >> To: blind-computing >> Subject: [Blind-Computing] virtual machine >> >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if it would be possible to obtain a Windows XP virtual >> machine. I already have VMware player installed. I did some browsing on >> the Internet, but it looks like I need to insert my Windows XP cd, which >> I don't have Windows xp. 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