oh I see, well good luck..

I use a flat bed scanner, an Legal size HP 6300P

I liked that Pearl. it doesn't need much room and portable. I like to hear that camera shutter sound and lordy that was quick!

The scanner I used for Oscar was a flat bed too, I have no idea the brand though. I do remember it had a lock button towards the back for moving it to keep it from harm, the lid was detachable. The scanning bed was not as wide as the one I have now, because of a border going along the inside of it from top/bottom and on each side. This was the paper guide making sure it was where it needed to be for the scan. It used 2 long slender maybe bout the length of a pencil but fatter light bulbs, much like the ones for kitchens those florescent tube kind, but of course much much smaller.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Eleni Vamvakari" <magkis...@gmail.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


I'm actually looking for all sorts of ocr software like the the
Arkenstone Reader but that's another impossible one.  I know there's
OmniPage, which is supposed to be wonderful, but I can't find the last
DOS version and don't know what it is in any case.  I have Recognita
but not the last version and am trying to learn which scanners work
with it.  Thanks for the hints on OSCAR.  Do the other DOS ocr
programs have similar problems?  Which is the best, not only from my
list but in general, for me to try and find?  Oh, let me add that I'd
prefer a flatbed scanner and not a sheetfed one as I don't want to
destroy my books etc.

Thanks,
Eleni

On 9/2/10, Trish <pzoell...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
May I ask why you would want to use Oscar?
Personally to have to go back to that after using OB, is just no
comparisons. This is not a plug for FS, it's just the truth.
While I might have scanned a cake mix box, what I didn't tell you was, the
box had to be flat meaning the contents were out of it, it took a lot of
tweaking with the settings for the colors to work with the text because as those things tend to go, it's usually a colorful box and sometimes the text is lighter and well Oscar did a hit and miss on one brand and read the other
brand much better.
I guess I'm too old and lack of patience to want to use something again that
required a lot of work,lol

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eleni Vamvakari" <magkis...@gmail.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


So how does it work?  That is, is OSCAR software or is it a combined
software and hardware package?  What HP scanner is required to use it
and would I need to get a card of some kind like the TrueScan ones
that the Arkenstone products use?

Thanks,
Eleni

On 9/2/10, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote:
I have Oscar as well although not the HP scanner any longer. I also bit
on
screen power for windows which was a total disaster.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one
up
too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trish" <pzoell...@tx.rr.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


wow, imagine that. I thought I was bout the only one using that..
I forgot to mention this was put out by Tele-sensory as well as the Oscar
scanner program.
I remember scanning a cake mix box and being able to read the
instructions
by myself, what an awesome feeling that was.
I have moved onto to Open Book long time ago, and have read many things
still with that program too. I truly can't complain about OB.
Wonder if the future of scanning will include the hand writings

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 6:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


I have a screen power system in the other room in fact.
David Ferrin
ow...@jaws-users.com
I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one
up
too.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Trish" <pzoell...@tx.rr.com>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 1:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


Hey,

I used a dos machine version 6 with WP/6 back in 1994. I bet no one ever
heard of my screen reader or used it for that matter,it was called,
Screen
Power Speech*SPS* I also had my first scanner from them as well called,
OSCAR.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan Dicey" <adi...@bellsouth.net>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:56 PM
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


Dear ROSEMARIE ,
Yes, I remember them, but I only used one at a typing Class for Blind
students, when going through the rehabilitation center for people who
lost
their vision.
The first computer I really used for Work or home was the IBM PC.
Good old DOS was nice.
I used WordStar mostly on it, but WordPerfect also!

I used a 19 inch monitor with hardware to magnify the screen, from
V-Tek
Wow, was all that stuff so primitive compared to today's stuff!
LOL!

Nice memories though, never, never thought about a "crash", it just
never
happened!
With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "ROSEMARIE CHAVARRIA" <knitqueen2...@verizon.net>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


Hi, Alan,

Do you remember the Apple II E? That was the very first computer I
learned
to operate. I remember there were two drives side by side. The first
one
was
for your speech program like word rap or word talk which is what I
used.
The
second drive was for the floppy disk that you stored information on.
If
I
remember correctly, control L turned the voice on and off. I almost
bought
an Apple II E from someone but I didn't have quite enough money to pay
for
it. I sure loved that machine though. It wasn't that hard to learn to
operate either.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:blind-computing-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Alan
Dicey
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:44 PM
To: blind-computing@jaws-users.com
Subject: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,

Dear Kim,
Oh yes!

Vert,  it was later called Soft Vert!
Nice simple program!

But it was just the software to make the hardware work, and one could
use
Accent, Echo,    Votrax, oh, so many different ones.
I remember you could purchase a Echo sound card from Radio Shack for
about
$80 and then you could use a computer without sight!

Big difference now with JAWS almost a thousand dollars!

And those 5 and 1/2 inch floppy disks, that held 362 K of data!
LOL!

I can hardly believe it!

In 1985,  I purchased an external hard drive, to go with my IBM PC.
It was 30 MB!

It cost $900
Can you believe that?

I have single cuts of music that are larger than 30 MB!
and my T-Drives cost about $79 each!

LOL!
With Best Regards,
Alan
Miami, Florida
Alan Dicey, President
United States Braille Chess Association - USBCA
"Yes, Blind or Visually Impaired People Can, and Do, Play Chess!!!"
United States Braille Chess Association Home Page:
http://AmericanBlindChess.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Kelly" <kim...@clearwire.net>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


I remember taking a computer class in the mid 80s, and we used a huge
computer and two floppy disks and we used a speech program called
"Vert
Plus".
Has anyone heard of that speech synthesizer?  I thought that class
was
so
fascinating.

Learning Doss and all of those commands.
What memories.



Kim Kelly

Clarkston Washington

Email and facebook:
kim...@clearwire.net

Alternative E-mail:

kim...@samobile.net

skype:

kblinky971


Visit my website
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Keep on smiling and everyone will wonder what you've been up too.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenny McHugh" <lmch...@verizon.net>
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,


Well, my first PC type computer was Maryland Computer Systems ITS,
information through speech. I then upgraded to total talk PC again
by
Dean Blazie.
Then at home Karen won an 8088 Packard Bell xt computer. With that
system

I used jaws for dos. I believe that in the mid 1980s is when I
purchased
jaws for windows 1 for windows 3.0. At that time I hated windows and
still am not a fan of PCs. Give me my old big mainframes. B5500,
B6700
then into the larger IBM mainframes. The first computer that I
worked
on
was an RCA spectra 70 and the IBM 1401.
On these systems I had to write my own read /write macros and
multiply
and divide routines. That was a lot of fun.
For the ITS, it was the world's first talking computer linked to an
IBM
mainframe. When it was linked a news release was sent out through
AP.
I
started receiving calls from all around the world inquiring about
it.
--------------------------------------------------
From: "heather kd5cbl" <kd5...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 7:07 PM
To: <blind-computing@jaws-users.com>
Subject: Re: [Blind-Computing] Computer museum,

One of my favorite system is weird! It was a 280 or 480 something
back
in the 80s. We had to use vex. I remember that we thought it was
the
coolest thing. That was when you had two floppy drives and about 2
or
three buttons to turn the computer on. That thing is still probley working today! I remember we took the computer apart in school to
see
how the components worked. Remember that is when it took two folks
to
carry it or maybe it is because we were so little. I just remember playing that typing game where you hit a key before the ghost gets
you.
And I remember all the commands just to make the computer function.
You

had to do it in the exact order or you had to do it all over again.
I
remember having to type "win" inter to make the windows come up. I
remember that if you wanted to spell check something, you had to
put
another flopp disk in that had the dictionary or part of it to get
the
correct word.  I liked my old dos based commands.  I was real
disappointed when you did not have the direct  access to windows
root
comands.  I mean you can still have access but, dos was just so
much
more efficient.  Heather

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