believe me, the list these days compared to how it was back then, is like comparing a meditation room to being in the middle of dunkirk in 1940! some developers really didn't help themselves with the communications to customers, but the amount of abuse they took far outweighed the reason for it. i'll not defend james for his handling of the whole thing, but he did take a lot of nasty abuse, some of it personal from list members on and off list, which was uncalled for. whatever the issues a developer is having, there's no excuse for nasty abusive and personal attacks (verbally). -----Original Message----- From: blind-gamers@groups.io [mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard Sent: 30 December 2017 23:04 To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question
Reality check for Justin: Seeing as you know nothing about what went on between James North and a lot of blind gamers, you should say nothing. While it is true that, as the saying goes, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen", there was also absolutely no reason for these people to send him the eMails that they sent not only to this list, but to James personally. He was not thin skinned. He took an awful lot of totally unnecessary abuse, a lot of it personal rather than about his business, from childish and impatient whiners who did not realize that problems do come up during beta testing, and that he would not distribute a buggy product. He announced an expected, not set in concrete, date of release, and then sent updates if that date was not going to be met. In his updates, he gave the reason for the pushing back date of the game. I saw some of these eMails, and would have thrown these adult children into a playpen to fight among themselves over a pacifier if I could have. They went beyond nasty by far. If you think you're finished, you! really! are! finished!! -----Original Message----- From: Justin Jones Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:43 PM To: blind-gamers@groups.io Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question Okay, reality check: if a developer cannot handle the heat, he shouldn't be a developer, or, at the very least, have someone else handle his public relations. I don't know anything about this James person you guys are on about, but based on what I have heard, he sounded like a thin-skinned narsicist that needed to get over himself. What, did he actually think that the main stream gaming public would treat him better? Hate to break the news, but main stream gamers are just as, if not more so, toxic; just as demanding; just as unforgiving. If you want to develop games, you had better be prepared to handle that reality and not cry about it when the Internet takes a swing at you. On 12/30/17, Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes I agree also. And now everybody I checked my bank and I am good to go! > So guess what? I am off to buy a hero's call and start playing, yay! > > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10 > > From: Ian McNamara > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 12:54 > To: blind-gamers@groups.io > Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question > > Hi all, > > I completely agree, it's good to give feedback to developers but not be > nasty or slag them off. If your not satisfied with what your getting then > why not learn the skills and make a game you want? > > Kind regards. > > Ian McNamara > > >> On 30 Dec 2017, at 17:42, Jordan Gallacher <jordanandseptem...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Yep so true. It is also not right to talk about another product on a >> list >> that is specificly for one product, which is what one person did, and he >> caused a lot of headaches for a lot of people. >> Jordan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blind-gamers@groups.io [mailto:blind-gamers@groups.io] On Behalf Of >> michael barnes >> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:47 AM >> To: blind-gamers@groups.io >> Subject: Re: James North - Re: [blind-gamers] A Hero's Call question >> >> It is very sad when people are nasty with developers of games for the >> blind. >> We have lost so many developers do to this reason. >> It is cool to give ideas or suggestions, but not to be nasty with them. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > -- Justin M. Jones, M.A. atreides...@gmail.com (254) 624-9155 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#118316): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/message/118316 View All Messages In Topic (23): https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/topic/7726376 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/7726376/21656 New Topic: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/post Change Your Subscription: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/editsub/21656 Group Home: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers Contact Group Owner: blind-gamers+ow...@groups.io Terms of Service: https://groups.io/static/tos Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/blind-gamers/leave/607459/1071380848/xyzzy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
