Like Scott I do not have any say on the projects outcome etc as it’s not 
something I am sure weather I would fund myself as these types of games are not 
usually my chosen types. 

Best wishes 

Ian Mcnamara 

> On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:26, Jack Falejjczyk <jackf...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> They did say specifically that part of their accessibility budget
> would involve testing with premium screen readers. So if you want JAWS
> support, it kind of does have to be funded first. I worry that JAWS as
> a consumer product will fizzle out sooner rather than later. Once
> Windows 10 Arm hits, JAWS is done for. And FS is applying JAWS, or
> versions of JAWS, to non-consumer settings such as
> shopping/informational keyoscs. So do keep in mind that there is legit
> reason (not personal beef with the product on my part) to believe that
> JAWS for individuals is has a good chance of fizzling out whether
> Windows 10 Arm comes to take it away or not, so that may or may not be
> a factor in whether or not they decide to devote time and resources
> into making the game fullproof with JAWS. To be clear, again, I do not
> intend to start a screen reader fewd over this, but just presenting
> the reality for what it is. Risks and challenges as any Kickstarter
> campaign will no doubt mention.
> Have a good day.
> 
> On 7/2/20, Scott Chesworth <scottcheswo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well assuming your point was support for "usual screen readers", then
>> yeah, it kinda is. NVDA has wider adoption than JAWS nowadays (see
>> recent webAIM surveys).
>> 
>> I think it's also worth keeping in mind at times like these that the
>> JAWS ULA precludes a demo version of JAWS being used to develop or
>> test for accessibility, which creates a chicken and egg situation.
>> Supporting JAWS is an expensive endeavour because of the terms of its
>> ULA. If none of the users who want JAWS support step up to fund it (at
>> least in part), how does that expense get covered?
>> 
>> I'm honestly not attempting to shame you into funding the project
>> Justin, I've got no stake in the outcome either way, just pointing out
>> how the land lies.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 7/2/20, Justin Jones <atreides...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That's not really the point though.
>>> 
>>> On 7/2/20, Ian McNamara <ianmcnamar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> NVDA is as good as JAWS in a lot of ways now, it’s recognised as a fully
>>>> fledged screen reader. I am an accessibility tester and NVDA is one of
>>>> the
>>>> screen readers I am required to test with.
>>>> 
>>>> Best wishes.
>>>> 
>>>> Ian Mcnamara
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2 Jul 2020, at 17:21, Justin Jones <atreides...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm out then. I wish them luck, but until they can support the usual
>>>>> screen-readers I cannot, in good conscience, support them.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Justin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/2/20, Robert Kingett <kinge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> You have to use NVDA. Not JAWS, for now. They told me through FB
>>>>>> Messenger
>>>>>> that JAWS was giving them huge amounts of problems. Use NVDA for now,
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> JAWS.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A.
>>>>> atreides...@gmail.com
>>>>> (254) 624-9155
>>>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Justin M. Jones, M.A.
>>> atreides...@gmail.com
>>> (254) 624-9155
>>> 701 Ewing St. #509-C, Ft. Wayne IN, 46802
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 


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