I agree, Jay. Mickey asked a legitimate question. Some agreed and some disagreed. I suspect enough agreed that things will continue pretty much as is. However, things have gone from disagreements over a legitimate question to...I'm not sure what. Even though I didn't agree with Mickey's position I sure hope he remains on the list and continues his valuable contributions. Ralph
_____ From: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Williams Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:42 PM To: blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques Dear Don, I found Tom's and Mickey's post well-considered and civilized. Every list occasionally does a self-review of one sort or another and this is one of the beauties of how these things work. I'm deeply disappointed in your reactions. A suggestion such as "Get the hell out" is both unbecoming and uncalled-for unless the person to whom it was directed has proven to be malicious in intention. Please!!! listen to your last two responses. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:n5gbi%40cox.net> > To: <blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques > Mickey, if you don't like the list unsubscribe, just get the hell out...Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mickey Fixsen > To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:31 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques > > > All I did was ask an honest question abut a list that purports to be about how a "blind" person can do all kinds of handyman type jobs. I simply stated my frustration that some postings are strictly geared toward the sighted and tell, in no way, how a blind person can do the job. I was not at all rude or nasty to anyone. I think this is a very fair question and it did get some honest answers. I don't think I deserve the nasty treatment for asking an honest question. > > Maybe it's really just a "post anything you want as long as the moderator agrees with you list" and really isn't about blindness at all. If so, then I was mistaken. > > At least, all of my postings have been from a blindness perstective. > > -- Mickey > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Ferrin > To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:39 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques > > This is great as we won't be without a research department in your absence Ray. good of you to leave the list in such capable hands. > David Ferrin > personal email address > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:dpf%40jaws-users.com> com > Consciousness is that annoying time between naps. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ray Boyce > To: blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 3:38 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques > > Hi Mickey > > As I do a lot of the research for the Blind Handy Man List and I am going > on Holidays I Appoint You to Stand In while I am away, it will be > interesting to see what you can come up with. > Remember Blind Techniques I think are your words so please base all your > responses along these lines. > > Ray > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mickey Fixsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:mfixsen%40avalon.net> net> > To: <blindhandyman@ <mailto:blindhandyman%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:21 PM > Subject: Re: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques > > > Thanks to all who replied to this issue. > > > > As expected, the responses are extremely varied. If nothing else, it has > > been interesting. > > > > Keep all of the good blind tricks and techniques coming. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Mickey Fixsen > > To: Blind Handyman > > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:11 AM > > Subject: [BlindHandyMan] blind techniques > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > I'm sorry, but I get frustrated when I read many things posted to this > > list that are simply a rehash of information available out there that is > > intended for sighted people. The information posted does not include the > > techniques and procedures to get the task done as a blind person. > > Shouldn't a rule of posting to this sight require the information posted > > to include the blindness techniques needed to do the Job? > > > > Granted, some posts do include blindness techniques and they are greatly > > appreciated. I am here, after all, to learn and share blindness techniques > > for doing all sorts of jobs as a blind person. It is of great help and > > encouragement to hear how other blind people are doing these jobs. It is > > of little or no help to me to hear how to do jobs by using vision. There > > are plenty of tv shows, books, and the internet to find information for > > sighted people. There is virtually no other place to get information of > > how to do these things as a blind person. > > > > This is, of course, just one person's opinion. I would like to hear what > > others think. > > > > Thanks-- Mickey > > > > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: > > 10/11/2006 > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: > > 10/11/2006 > > > > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.2/472 - Release Date: 10/11/2006 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > To listen to the show archives go to link > > http://acbradio. <http://acbradio.org/handyman.html> org/handyman.html > > or > > ftp://ftp.acbradio. <ftp://ftp.acbradio.org/acbradio-archives/handyman/> org/acbradio-archives/handyman/ > > > > The Pod Cast address for the Blind Handy Man Show is. > > http://www.acbradio <http://www.acbradio.org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday> .org/news/xml/podcast.php?pgm=saturday > > > > The Pod Cast address for the Cooking In The Dark Show is. > > http://www.gcast. <http://www.gcast.com/u/cookingindark/main.xml> com/u/cookingindark/main.xml > > > > Visit The New Blind Handy Man Files Page To Review Contributions From > > Various List Members At The Following Address: > > http://www.jaws- <http://www.jaws-users.com/handyman/> users.com/handyman/ > > Visit the new archives page at the following address > > http://www.mail- <http://www.mail-archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/> archive.com/blindhandyman@yahoogroups.com/ > > For a complete list of email commands pertaining to the Blind Handy Man > > list just send a blank message to: > > blindhandyman- <mailto:blindhandyman-help%40yahoogroups.com> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Yahoo! 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